FAT content for 100g ?

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  1. Louise D

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    This is actually a very real move Clare.
    A few years ago now the fashion industry responded to womens vanity, regarding their own true dress size, and the labels manufacturers stitched into clothes !
    The manufacturers started using smaller sizes labels - by 2 dress sizes - and what you experienced is happening to all of us everywhere - certainly in this country.
    I think it's wrong on SOOOOO many levels :mad:


    As for fat content in food - stick to less than 5% per 100g and our bodies will be fine.

    Nutrition was my line of work for over 20 years and the excuses i heard for being overweight were never ending :rolleyespink:
     
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    dim, sorry, but I don't quite understand. 14.8g is 12% of 125g :scratch:

    I still make all my on meals from scratch so don't really have to worry too much - but have problems with trying not to eat too much of what I make. :heehee:

    The problem with using 5% mince is that it doesn't have as good a flavour as the higher percentages and can be a bit on the dry side. I cook for flavour so tend to use the 12% and after having cooked it down a bit I then drain off the excess fat. This doesn't bring it down to 5% but gives a much better flavour and texture.

    Labels showing fat content are usually quite clear but the wording on packages can be misleading. Most 'reduced fat' products have their salt and sugar content increased. Not a problem if all you want to do is reduce calorie intake but can be quite serious if you need to reduce sodium and sugar intake.

    clueless,
    although what you say is correct we now live in a world where most people don't get enough exercise so they do need to be aware of higher fat content. Also, because of this they need to be more aware of what type of fat it is.

    Another factor people don't take into account is the 'smoke point' (the temperature at which the fat starts to burn) of fats and what happens to them. Different fats/oils have different 'smoke points' so you need to consider what you want to use it for. Polyunsturated fats are 'good' but if you take them past their smoke point the become trans fats which are very bad. Heating them to smoke point is fine (stir frying etc) but to use the same oil more than once for other forms of cooking (deep frying and shallow frying) is much worse than if you cooked in saturated fat. So if you overheat it don't use it again.
     
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    My Mum and generations before her, managed to bring up healthy families without ever knowing that 100g of this or that contains 'x' amounts of fat, carbohydrate, sodium, fibre, sugar, salt, saturates, polyunsaturates etc., etc., etc. She just got on with giving us a well-balanced diet. Then suddenly, because so many people can't be arsed to cook properly any more, we're supposed to get all 'twitchy' amount of anything (sugar, salt, fat, etc) per 100g. It's all well and good but .. it can also be seriously misleading - for example:

    I have infront of me two different brand packets of cheese and onion crisps (both unopened - at the moment - I hasten to add!) - one states that per 100g there is 31.5g of fat; the other states 33g of fat per 100g (of which 2.6g are saturated fat: 25.9g are mono-unsaturates whilst the remaining 2.8g are polyunsaturates!). Whilst you can make the assumption that the bag containing the 31.5g fat is 'healthier', unless you know your saturates from your mono-unsaturates and polyunsaturates, what are you left with? A bag of crisps.

    Take any food and the 'Typical values' say '.. per 100g' - then look at the amount of 'food' in that container which can range from 18g (one of my aforementioned bags of crisps) to say a family-sized lasagne which looks as though it contains, what? 500g, maybe a lot more? I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything which is actually sold in 100g portions - so, because I don't really want to weigh every single portion of everything I consume and then do loads of arithmetic, I just stick to the fact that I know fruit and veggies are much better for me than second slice of 'death by chocolate', but too much of anything (or indeed too little of some) 'aint good either.

    If 'they' stopped stuffing junk and processed food into themselves and their children, turned off their TV, video games and iPods and left the car in the garage occasionally, there wouldn't be the need to be so obsessed about what's 'healthy' and what's not.
     
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      Hear! Hear!

      Especially this bit!!


      :dbgrtmb:

      PS ... I've just eaten a packet of McVities Ginger Nuts with a cup of coffee. Thats not good is it??

      :DOH:
       
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      from what I have read on several forums, the one really bad thing to avoid at all costs is asparatine, or anything that contains it .... lots of info on google

      asparatine - Google Search
       
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      naughty naughty:D!
       
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      Avoid anything that has "No added sugar" on it, it probably has sweetners instead.

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      As for fat, I used to eat whole bars of Summer County margarine & tubs of vaseline when I was a kid.

      Never did me any harm :happydance:
       
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      There's very little fats in the packet so you should be OK :dbgrtmb:. But if you ate the biscuits you had better watch out :rolleyespink:.
       
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        My thought entirely!
         
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        on a side note (not trying to hijack the thread), but some scientists and large corporations such as Montsanto are messing with crops and creating what is known as 'franken foods' by manipulating the DNA etc ...

        they also create all sorts of new hormone additives which are fed to livestock to make them fatter much quicker etc and reaping higher profits much quicker

        so, one needs to be a bit more carefull nowadays, and read the labels and understand what's happening, and also try and eat a balanced menu

        in the 'old days' much of what was consumed by humans was organic, which sadly is not the case today
         
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        True, up to a point, but Growmore, which isn't organic, was invented during the war to help increase yields added to which, I've seen what goes on fields in order to produce 'organic' food and we all know what slurry is!

        The other, slightly off topic point here is, that 'in the olden days' you couldn't buy beans flown in from Kenya, tomatoes from Spain, cherries from Portugal etc., etc., all year round, you had what was in season. In addition, when my Mum's generation bought fruit and veg, there were no 'sell by', 'use by', 'best before' dates, so my Mum for example, might look at a cabbage and know that if she took off that couple of slightly less than perfect leaves it'd be fine to eat. These days many shoppers don't have the ability to think for themselves, they don't even realise there's a man out the back of the supermarket taking off the yellowing leaves for them. For which reason, I for one, long since gave up buying cabbage from any supermarket where every one of the decent dark green leaves has been removed.
         
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        Also off topic :love30:

        'Sell by', 'Use by', 'best before' etc are due for a revamp.

        It has been calculated that approx six billion pounds worth of food per annum is thrown away mainly because of the public misunderstanding the meaning of these phrases - known as 'Best Before Paranoia'.

        'Sell by' is only used by the retailer to be able to rotate stock and is of no interest to the consumer.

        'Best before' does not mean you shouldn't eat it. All it is saying is that the look or the flavour may possibly not be the quite the same as when it was new. The BB day on fruit and veg can easily be ignored and you can judge for yourself and on canned food is totally ridiculous.

        I know when the banana I have in my fruit bowl is no longer fit to eat. I don't need a little label suggesting that I get rid of it by a certain day.

        'Use by' (only on fish, meat and dairy) is the date when you should definitely use careful judgement but does not mean you should automatically thrown it away. Pork is a 'no-no' after it's use by date and fish you have to be very careful about - especially herring, mackerel and tuna, so I would be inclined to stick to the use by date on those. Other meats are usually OK for a couple of days after their use by date but you can normally tell quite easily from smell and feel (if they feel slimy, don't eat). Eggs should always be given the 'float' test. If it floats in water then it's off.

        Shops mustn't sell UB marked products after that date and food establishments mustn't use it.
         
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          Don't get me started on the "use by" dates! AFAIC, if it smells alright, looks alright and tastes alright then it 99.9% certainly is alright. If it fails the sniff/squint/slurp test, then bin it, regardless of the date.

          I also know for a fact that mouldy cheese and limp veg can be safely eaten in times of dire need after a bit of tidying up, although, obviously, the fresh stuff is nicer.

          It seems to me that there is barely a teenager in the land that is aware of these basic survival skills (and quite a few adults as well). When civilisation as we know it collapses, maybe next week, there's going to be a lot of very hungry teenagers around. Ah well,when they're paying back their massive tuition fee loans maybe they'll start to see sense.

          Honestly, the amount of waste, over-production and utter servility to mindless consumerism represented by
          "use by" and "best before" dates makes me despair for the human race!
           
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          Well, you know, when you can't be bothered to go t the supermarket and it's necessary to make supper from whatever can be unearthed from the back of the fridge. Surely we've all been there, haven't we?

          Oh dear, maybe it is just me then.
           
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