Fracking good or bad?

Wow that looks like a meteor strike Marley Farley! Thanks for sharing.

Good one JWK lol

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...uld-consider-fracking-says-charitys-head.html

 

It's said that all the tax's will go back to the help the locals people

 

Absolutely. This is the nub of the argument. Those that are arguing for it can see the massive profits to be made and want to sweeten up the electorate with talk of cheaper energy and jobs, because those are the current buzz words that get everybody going. David Cameron has got the cash to naff off and live somewhere protected from the foul environmental results of fracking, the rest of us haven't.

JWK, I was listening to a programme which suggested the UK would not see a drop in energy prices as a result of fracking because our energy costs are tied in with the European market.

There should be windmills on every building and solar panels on every suitable roof and every effort made to reduce energy use before fracking is considered.

Whether the protestors have jobs or not has nothing to do with the environmental arguments. And we can be pretty sure that they don't stand to make massive profits from their protests! Who you're gonna believe?

 

Massively against fracking. 'Sod the environment, lets make some loot!'

David effin' Scameron.

Is this what we're heading for? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fracking+fire+tap&sm=3

 

I am very very skeptical about fracking from the little I know about experiences around the world where they actually have it up and running. I have friends in the US where the downsides and accidents are much more talked about, it sounds very unpredictable and not such a science as the developers and politicians would have us believe.

What really troubles me about this issue (and others) is that very little objective, scientific and factual experiential information is provided to inform the general public or the pros and cons and long term effects etc. So much of what is talked about fracking seems to be politcal or big money developers getting media air-time who have a vested interest in the outcome, the facts and experiences worldwide as well as long term risk assessments are practically ignored.

In this era of the money-god the decisions will be based simply on money. Very sad and worrying. Whether the ordinary consumer will actually benefit, I am again very doubtful. Promises of tax breaks to local councils and benefits to local communities should sounds very loud alarm bells.

 

Oh my goodness!!

 

This made me laugh out loud when I read it, then I looked on Wikipedia to see who is calling the shots at the national trust and it's good old prince Charles, who will definitely not have anything to gain from fracking will he.
I think it's worth pointing out that David Cameron's great great great grandfather is king William IV, so he is related to the royal family. I know what I'm about to say would be classed as a conspiracy theory by certain people but it's just my opinion, and it is that David Cameron is nothing but a puppet for the royal family as are many other politicians within government. They certainly seem to be singing from the same song sheet when it comes to fracking, and it was not that long ago reported that prince Charles has been having secret meetings with high level ministers within the government....

 

I think David Cameroon promised the 50% of Business Rates (for the fracking sites) that goes to Central Government for re-distribution to local authorities as Rate Support Grants, could be retained.

The Local Authority that collects Business (normally the District Council) shares what it collects with the County Council, Parish Councils (I know I'm missing out Unitary Authorities, Metropolitan Counties, but I'm trying to keep it simple) Police and Fire Service.

So I have doubts about whether the local communities most affected would actually see much of this extra cash, as in the case of Balcombe any extra Business Rates retained would be shared out amongst the whole of West Sussex, and wider if their Police cover more than one County.

 

It was on the news yesterday that David Cameron has said as an incentive to approving it, councils will receive 100% of the business rates from the sites, PLUS local communities will get 1% of it. Work that one out.

Also, there was a chief of one council or other being interviewed on the radio. The presenter asked if the offer of 100% would influence their decision. The councillor answered that of course the incentive would be welcomed, but that it wouldn't affect their planning decisions. The presenter then suggested the 'incentive' was actually a bribe. The councillor's reaction, almost certainly by accident, was a cracker. He said, and I quote, "no, in local government terms, the amount of money we're talking about isn't enough to qualify as a bribe".

 

And there I was thinking it was only our crummy government

 

I'd like to see some kind of sensible approach to this, on the one hand we have professional trouble makers/layabouts telling us one thing on the other we have politicians and business men.
I dont believe either side, they both have their own agendas.
We need good solid info from uninterested parties.
But we, the bloke in the street, will never get that info.

My own thoughts are it should be investigated, with caution and sensible safegauards put into place.
Personally I dont think massive earthquakes are likely to be the outcome in the UK, or sink holes unless they already exist due to other works.

Has anyone considered asking the water companies about this, afterall, if all the scaremongering is to be believed it is they who will have to sort out the problem.
As if the ground water should get poisoned they will have to treat it, or be fined, should they let it come out our taps.