frothy problem advise needed plz x

we are going to get the laser pen tomo and see what the diff in height is,i dont think the top pond is more than 15inches higher x
we leave the pump on its never turned off so we best ring british gas and see how much more its costing :WINK1:
ive been worrying about evaporation causing problems mostly ?? would that make a diff to the size of the drop of the rill/stream or would i just have to make sure its topped up so the lower pond doesnt run too low for the plants ??
itl be trial n error like u said maybe il move the fish to the top pond they might be safer there do you have fish i forgot to ask you? x

 

nice i might have to persuade darran to dig deeper on the top pond
Pump Filter 6800L/H is what we have now but we can always buy another more suitable if need be
we have a plan for a tap or water barrels down near the greenhouse cos im sick of reeling up n down,the plants get watered before the kids get their breakfast priorities :D
darrans now thinking maybe he should build up the top pond in height so the water level will be even higher and so the stream will run to a waterfall down into the lower pond for more oxygen?? hes lost me :o but i dont know how much oxy you need to keep fish alive n happy im sure he doesnt need to that
i reckon keeping my horses was easier than keeping fish x

 

Miles too late with reply as I have only just come across your post about froth. By now you should have your pond up and running now and enjoying it.
Probably different froth from yours but I have froth every year and at first I was worried. It coincides with the frogs laying their eggs. Seems once they start to grow the froth comes, whether it is because the fish eat them and causing some sort of disturbance I do not know but could well be the eggs breaking down.
Still it lasts about a couple of weeks and then it is gone as quick as it came.
My wife accused me of putting washing up liquid in the pond!!!
Flakes should not cause any froth but like all food do no overdo it. Personally also I have never put a heater in pond as I feel they do not need it. I know they are cold blooded and hibernate in winter at bottom of pond.
Sometimes the ice has been around 2" thick but I always make sure there is a hole in the ice. Again out of personal preference I leave my waterfall on even during the winter so this makes a natural hole.
My pond is around 2 feet deep in the middle so plenty of water for fish but I suppose if a pond is shallow you may need to heat water to keep ice off.
I have been run running my pond now for around 13 years and never had any problems with ice casualties, now algae or that long green stuff at the start of warm weather is a different matter.

 

Hi, I don't know if its just the way I am reading your post, but you seem to be misinformed / contradicting yourself

You are right that "Flakes should not cause any froth" but they do / and can. (Again you are also right when you say don't over do it)


"Personally also I have never put a heater in pond as I feel they do not need it"

"They" being the fish? Again, you are right, the fish don't need the heater, but the water does. The heater is not there to heat all the pond, its only there to keep a small area free from ice. Not every one has a waterfall.


"I know they are cold blooded and hibernate in winter at bottom of pond."

Fish do not hibernate. Yes the heart rate and metabolism slows down, but they are still "awake" if you give a fish something to eat it will still eat it, it wouldn't do that if it was hibernating. It also still swims around. But here in lies a problem. If you do feed a fish that is in very cold water, its metabolism is so slow that chances are the food will rot before it gets digested, rotting food inside a fish is not good.

As I said at the top, sorry if I have misunderstood your post.

 

thanks armandi,i have no idea how it will end up but making it bigger is a good idea xx

:D my froth has gone now togre i never had any froth in the other pond thou which the frogs,newts etc bombard each yr...prob because of all the duckweed its has,i need more barley straw me thinks :D x

watergarden ,when do i stop feeding the fish plz ???? xxx

 

we will have to wait til spring to dig the gunnera up,i will try and empty it all by then and once hes worked out how he will build the sides up it will be all systems go :D cant wait armandi x