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Discussion in 'Identification Area' started by Snorky85, Jan 19, 2017.

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  1. shiney

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    @Silver surfer you're trying to talk us into getting more Hellebores :snorky:

    We have about ten varieties but some of those in the link are really lovely. :love30:
     
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    Can never have too many!
    In past 30 years the price for special ones has really come down.
    You can now pick up beautiful ones very cheaply.

    Have you noticed some have stunning nectaries?
    In this one the nectaries are dark red.

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/91/09/c09109f35d7319acf86f36ac3c7cfe1b.jpg

    This one golden...

    https://farmyardnurseries.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/helleborus-primrose-gold-nectaries-3.jpg

    To see them at their best pick a flower and float it in water.

    hellebores floated - Google Search


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      They are lovely :dbgrtmb:

      We do that when we have guests coming round. Mrs Shiney makes glass bowls and they look stunning together.
       
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        When it's not so cold I will go back and make a tidier job of it! I found three clumps of them hidden around the back garden. They're behind Laurel bushes etc so I plan to dig them out and put them all together.

        Having to resist getting more before my big plans to redesign the garden are taking place!!
         
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          Digging them out to move is best done in September.
          And when you have over 300 clumps to cut back, then you can complain.
          The yellow upward facing ones which we have, have self seeded with gay abandon all over one of the raised beds. The seedlings will have to be lifted and dealt with soon. Trouble is they do not come true from seeds so I will have to find somewhere to grow them on to flowering before throwing them away.
          If you ever get the chance to go to Ashwood's Hellebore Days then take it ( and a bank loan).
           
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            Although we like all of our Hellebores we don't, yet, have any upward facing ones. So we need to think about those as well.

            All our Hellebores seem to spread very easily and have been getting a bit out of hand and some beds have gone from having the occasional clump to being covered in them. It's so hard to be drastic with such pretty plants.

            The doubles, unfortunately, don't seem to be so rampant.

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            Agreeing with Palustris, these next two came from the same parent plant. Although they are prettier than the parent which is just plain purple.
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              Ahh!
              To avoid beds covered in seedling plants the other job that needs doing later in the year is to remove all flowers and stalks before they seed like mustard and cress.
              You have some beautiful ones shiney.
               
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                Thank you @Silver surfer :)

                Some of ours have been with us for 45 years but the doubles are only within the last five years.
                 
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                Dead heading is easier said than done when there are so many other jobs around the garden that need doing when the Hellebores are setting seed.
                Depends on how many plants one has.
                 
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                  And, for me, it needs to be when Mrs Shiney can do it. :snork: I can't do any bending work unless I can support myself with one hand (usually on my knee) so I can't do low level pruning :sad:
                   
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                  Getting down to the plants is not the problem, it is getting back up again.
                  I am on my 15th barrow load of Hellebore leaves and I still have the Damson Wood, the Yellow Border and another bed to do. So who planted too many of the things?
                   
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                    Like Topsy - they just grow'd. :dunno:
                     
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                    Hello again...hellebores...is it ok to cut the flowers off now?

                    :)

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                        At nearly £20 a plant in the garden centres i'd let em seed :snorky:
                         
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