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  1. wiseowl

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    Hi Freddy Looks great ,:thumb::)
     
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    Hi again WOO. You said to prune again in again in march. I just wondered, why prune twice ? Cheers...freddy.
     
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    Hi Freddy If you are going to train it as a Climber then it won't need another Prune,and it should reach about 10 feet in height but that is all,the only reason i suggested just a third now and another third in March was I didn't want your beautiful Rose stressed out by a severe
    pruning when it looked a bit worse for wear,Hope this is of some help to you:gnthb::)
     
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    "why prune twice"

    I prune quite a lot of things, and especially Roses, twice.

    The Autumn prune gets rid of some of the bulk, reduces the amount "waving in the wind" which loosens the roots, and so on.

    But winter frosts may kill the branches back a bit, so in the Autumn I have no idea where the rose will sprout from. In the Spring as soon as the buds start to fatten, or break, I can see what is going to grow and then prune to an outward facing bud - so that there is not too much growing into the middle of the bush.

    This applies more to a bush, rather than a climber
     
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    Hi folks. Thanks for those great replies :thumb:
     
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    Hi There Kristen Its just that I do the main prune in march ,when you say prune in the autumn ,I would only consider it Tidying the Rose up
    Only my personal oppinion of course:)
     
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    I agree WOO. The Autumn "thingie" is indeed a tidy-up (although I also think that reducing the bulk that catches the wind is important, so its not "just" cosmetic); and then I prune my roses to within an inch of their life :) in the Spring.
     
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    Hi Kristen yes I agree 100% as lots of Roses can be badly damaged by Wind rock,I usually check at the base of all my Roses just to make sure that the Roots are stable and especially in wet weather I tread round the base and then put down fresh soil and mulch:) Not too sure about an inch of their life but each to their own:)
     
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    Just had a look at the spot you chose for the rose-it will be lovely there.

    Woo-quick question-you say if you wish to grow as a climber then don`t prune-is that for the first few years? As I think I have told you I have a seagull rambler-that`s.....well it`s a bully. One year in, and it has already got a span of at this point easily 18/20 ft across. It does have a long wall to spread across and that is about a fifth of the wall. What sort of growth should I expect from it. I t has gone like the clappers but I presume it has a total expected growth.
     
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    Hi Lollipop Well the general rule of thumb is that you don't prune a new Climber for the first two or three years,your beautiful Seagull Rose (Rambler) if left will reach a height of 20-25ft,the Blooms are produced on short Lateral Branches ,If you need to prune to control the size Prune it only straight after Flowering,incidentally it was 100 years old in 2007 and goldfinches love to nest in it :)
     
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    I did not know about the goldfinches-how lovely. It was a good job I put it where I did or there could have been problems. I am now considering using one along with a banksia to climb the house-25ft-perfect!!

    Incidentally, the branches were only 4 ft when I bought it! It must be able to sense I love it.
     
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    Hi Lollipop Sorry I forgot to say that the spread is Approximately 20ft
    and when in Bloom Bees and butterflies just love it,In the autumn it is covered in little Red Hips masses of them
    Yes Banksia a lovely Combination (yellow)30ft High Thornless and Seagull(White)Heavy thorns:)
     
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    Hi WOO. Just to be clear, the climbing roses I planted over the winter will NOT need any pruning at all for a few years ? Cheers...freddy.
     
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    Hi Freddy I consider (This Stage) to be my 2-3 years :)
    Allow the rose to reach the height you want. During (this stage,) just tidy the plant, trimming out any damaged growth. Continue to tie in the stems where necessary to support them and to maintain a good shape.


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    Ok WOO, gotcha. Thanks :thumb:
     
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