HORRENDOUS!!!

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by jay, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. Daisies

    Daisies Total Gardener

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    Yup - got the same blight as well, BM. That used to be space between my bottom neigbours!

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  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    I'm afraid that until interest rates rise and house prices fall from the rediculous height they have reached, it will go on,
    The need for houses is pushed by the devolpers, if house prices were more realistic the developers would not be so keen to provide us with this "Much needed housing". Its money for old rope and the government likes it that way.
    Its all to do with the "Feel good factor" its supprising how may idiots there are out there that think because there house has gone up in value, they're better off.
    Complete bunch of PRATS.
     
  3. FANCY

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    to all my friends did you see the latest number of people living in OUR COUNTRY?60 million, this is the reason they are building on green belt and brown belt sites. quite appaulling. :confused: :confused: :D :D
     
  4. Fran

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    Whoa - take a breath here. Yes developers and their rotten built boxes are a pain in the *****. Believe me I empathise - living in a small doomsday village threatened by a near by town and by government dictate on the number of houses to be built in the south east.

    However the UK is still a green a pleasant land, and housing is estimated to occupy only 10% of the total country - about the same amount of area occupied by roads, parks and playing fields. Any of you been on an aeroplane lately and seen it. Tis why its worth fighting every green area that is threatened - but please don't subscribe to the theory that the UK is being concreted over - it ain't yet.

    Half of all the land is not registered but the estimated figures for land ownerships makes interesting reading.
     
  5. FANCY

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    I could'nt agree with you more PETE they shouldnt have spent money on unwanted wars.2 years ago I sold my cake shop due to my very sick husband, soon as I moved in to are new house 6mths on tax were demanding Ã?£15,000 for selling the shop and they wanted the money forthwith, there wasnt a big profit , we had to bring the shop to health and hygiene standard. they only let us off a bit.so where do you think the money went? [​IMG] [​IMG] :( [​IMG]
     
  6. jay

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    Fran there is alot of it left, you can see that when you fly above the country.
    However, the 'much needed' housing is being bought before it's built & sold for a fat profit, or rented, or used as a second home by many. How priveleged I would feel if I could afford to live in the countryside, surrounded by relativley protected land - as it is I moved 40 miles away from work to get out of the ever increasing Birmingham suburbs to green and pleasant Staffs, where the 4+ bedroomed new houses on the estates blot the landscape, and we're now having built a 'much needed' leisure & shopping complex (right next to a nature reserve), including 300+ apartments and a 7 screen cinema, and new sports centre (thanks to backhanders from a building company). Hoorah, lazy people won't have to travel half an hour to the nearest city now, they can clog up the roads even more with a 5 minute drive to town. I can't wait for the new bypass they'll need to build...It makes me seethe! I hope the new shopping complex falls into the old brine marshes!
     
  7. FANCY

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    our country will soon look like HONGKONG HOUSES ON THE WATER
     
  8. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Jay you right. Fran, there is a lot of green places, the trouble is we dont live in them, if we did they wouldn't be green anymore.
    Town cramming is the problem, every available green space is being bought up in the towns for devoplment. How oftern do you see the sign on the small building site "more land needed".
    Encouraging people to sell off that odd bit of ground they dont need, to a developer who will cram a few houses on it.
    To everone else in the area its an eyesore, but the seller can now afford to move.
    The amount of houses per acre has I think been increased, so as to avoid concreting over the countryside, to some extent.
    But if it means a block of flats ten foot from my window or a lost green field, then I know which one I would sefishly pick. :mad:
     
  9. PeterS

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    Fran. I am afraid I have to disagree with you. The UK is grossly overpopulated. In the farming world, you need over an acre of land for every cow. Call it an acre. So if a 100 acre farm has 100 cows it is fully stocked. If it has 200 cows it is dangerously overstocked. If an outsider were to look at it he could think that there was plenty of room for more cows. But there is no more room. You need that acre to provide enough food on a sustainable basis, and to be able to dispose of the cow's byproducts in a way that does not harm the long term future. If you have too many cows in a small area they will be standing in their own filth and it will effect their long term health.

    I do not know how many acres you need for a person, but I know that we currently have several times the number of people for the acres that we have. We cannot grow enough food for ourself, even though we are quickly using up north sea oil to make fertiliser. And we are certainly standing in our own filth. We are running out of landfill, we are running out of roads. But the most dangerous filth is the type that you can't see. And one these is called carbon dioxide. We generate several times more of this than our green spaces can recycle. We currently rely on others such as the Amazon rainforest to clear up our waste products. We then have the cheek to complain if they cut down their own trees, and try to emulate our lifestyle.
     
  10. Tipsy

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    An interesting topic.....there are several houses near where I live with large gardens...these are being halved in size and the suddenly unwanted section is sold for building....the seller then moves on having made a few extra bucks.

    I can see the temptation and it reflects society today....future generations will end up paying for it

    Fancy....I know the areas you mentioned well and the old 'villages' around there are gradually being swallowed by the City
     
  11. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    There's lots of houses around here that have just been built and now they cant sell them.
    Either the price is far too high, or the actual houses are not particually attractive, being cramped and overlooked.
    So called apartment blocks are really auful, and they had the nerve to run down the planners of the sixties with their tower blocks.
    Modern ones are built behind iron gates, is that to keep the residents in, or us out?, either way, it reminds me of a prison. :(
    They even tend to build in, a small exercise yard.
     
  12. Paladin

    Paladin Gardening...A work of Heart

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    Talk about iron railings keeping folk out and not in..I worked in Virginia Water on the old asylum when it was converted into expensive apartments..what a creepy place. And where did the inmates go????

    My village boasts the longest cul-de-sac in the country..A new housing estate was followed with a bypass and the main street was blocked off. Shops closed but house prices rocketed...houses that had been bought by the financial backers of the bypass!!!!!!!! [​IMG]
     
  13. jay

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    There's nothing I'd like more than to own a few (hundred) acres, and have somebody come and offer me money for my land... I'd point my rifle at them and give them 10 seconds to leg it back to their company car!
     

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