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  1. shiney

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      Another thing we need to take seriously, because scientists are already developing it is major life extension. Of course there are moral and ethical issues, however I'm a firm believer than humanity finds a way and learns from its mistakes, I believe we can make it work, whilst combatting overpopulation. Remember I for one would not want children if I could live 'forever', there's no point, so birth rates would naturally go down. Of course people may not want this and would probably prefer to live naturally. I would take advantage of life extending technology, because I believe life is too short, personally.
       
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      I can't remember who said it but I agree that it's scarier to think that we are alone than if we aren't in this universe. They must be out there somewhere?!

      Some 'interesting' reading here:

      http://www.viewzone.com/zeta.html
       
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      Life extension is only really OK if there is a corresponding improvement in health. I don't want my health to continue to deteriorate for the next hundred years.
       
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      Obviously there would naturally be an improvement in health care and availability, but really, if you had extended life span indefinitely you could binge drink, overeat whatever as there would always be a way of combatting the effects. The only issue here is no whether we have the future technology to enable indefinite lifespan, but more a case of how much is it going to cost us.. that will be the real block for people wanting such things.
       
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      We'd probably end up with a war over who gets the treatment! As extended life will cause so many problems and resentments because it will be too expensive for everyone there will be a war between the haves and have nots - or homo sapiens and neo-homo sapiens.
       
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      Maybe, but only for the rich or the suitably 'sponsored'.

      I can well imagine if there was another space race that the likes of the US government would fund such treatments for a select few who got selected for some long duration space mission, but for ordinary folk, it will be business as usual. I.e. we take our chances with the struggling, under funded NHS, if we're lucky enough to still have it at all in the future.

      I don't see much point in trying to significantly extend natural life expectancy anyway. I think as a species we don't do too bad. Some get 90 years or more. Can't really complain at that. Then there's the fact that 'the hill' that we go over isn't really a favourable shape. Its kind of very steep to the summit on one side, and then it seems a long drawn out descent down the other. I.e. you ascend the hill very rapidly from birth to about 25 year old, then spend a year or two at the top gloating, before realising you're in for a long long walk through long grass and brambles all the way to the end. I'm still on the right side of 40, and for the last week I've been walking the just over 3 miles home from work every day. I've been really striding it out as fast as I can, and I can do it in just under 45 minutes. Great, except that when I was in my early 20s and I sometimes used to walk home from an entirely different work, I could do the 4 and a half miles in 42 minutes (my walking speed then was often likened by a friend who had been in the army as 'like a squaddy marching double time'). I'll never again be able to walk 4.5 miles in 42 minutes. I can accept that. I'll probably accept it when the time comes when I reminisce that I could walk the just over 3 miles in about 45 minutes. However, when the time comes, I don't want to spend too long thinking that I'll never again be able to walk 3 miles at all.
       
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        I think there's a moral there C1....make the most of it...
         
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          Anyway, slightly back on topic. One thing I find interesting is the concept of size. We all think the universe is massive, but is it? Surely it's down to our own perspective? For all we know, the universe is nothing more than a twinkle in the eye of an inter-universe rodent, or an atom in the sausage on the plate belonging to a bug-eyed wotsit. On the other hand, maybe there are aliens lurking inside the universe that is the smallest thing we can detect.
          Weird eh?:sofa:
           
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            " ...you ascend the hill very rapidly from birth to about 25 year old, then spend a year or two at the top gloating, before realising you're in for a long long walk through long grass and brambles all the way to the end..."

            Wow! What a pessimistic view :). When I reached 40 I was still considering there was so much I would get done on the way up and have been going upwards ever since. The aches and pains are just incidental. I'm aiming to still be able to enjoy myself when I'm a hundred - but to do it much slower. :blue thumb:
             
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              We have McDonalds which make people twice the size. So with a little reverse engineering ................
               
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                Same here, but I'll never be as quick as when I was 25:)
                 
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