I never thought I'd agree with David Cameron

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  1. pete

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    I think we need to get shot of the EU red tape, but we still need to keep them as kind of friends.
    "Kind of Friends", because that is all they are at the moment, but I guess if we were to leave, (doubt it would ever happen), they would stick the knife in, big time.

    As for the so called renegotiation Cameron is on about?
    He might as well talk to the trees, he would get more response.
     
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      Aaaah, but wood he????:scratch::dunno::heehee:
       
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        Countries such as Norway do very well without having the EU shackles on them. They're in the EEC but not the EU. I know they don't need the EU financially as they're quite oil-rich, but they don't have the headache we and other soft EU countries have... We also don't subscribe to the ban for (3??) years on immigrant from newly-joined EU countries, which the likes of Spain took up.
         
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        Nor do they have the financial drain of paying into the EU. I'd like to bet that the UK pays in a hell of a lot more than it gets back out.
         
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        • clueless1

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          According to some data I found here:

          http://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...pending-contributions-european-union#spending

          If its correct, and if I interpreted it correctly, we give the EU almost twice what we get back from them, whereas the poorer mostly Eastern European members get a lot more out than they put in.
           
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          Pretty much as I thought

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          Have you met him? Get beyond the "you can call me Dave" media persona and the truth is very different. Nothing nor nobody was getting in the way of his ambition. And I don't think that he's that bright either.

          If I had to vote for a Tory, much as I disagree with a lot of his beliefs it would probably be David Davis - I do believe that he is straight, and he has a grasp of life in the hard lane.

          So, how about these for qualifications for politics;

          You must have done manual work for two years.
          You must have done six months full time charitable work.
          You must have worked (properly, political researcher does not count) for ten years
          You must have served as an MP for at least one and a half terms before holding ministerial office.
          For your first term as an MP you will live in an MP's hostel and receive minimum wage. No external income can be touched by you or your family (unless your spouse works). Staff will come from the hostel pool of aides/assistants.
          You will sign a contract agreeing to the state receiving 60% of any book deals, public speaking fees, guest lecture deals etc after you leave politics for life.
           
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            They should only need one qualification, longk.........to be honest.:dunno::hate-shocked::snork:
             
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              No worries for us in England. We will become a staging post for the newly independent Scotland next year, which will be a magnet with it's completely bonkers generous benefits system. Maybe we should start setting up camps this side of Hadrians Wall a bit like the French do at Calais.
               
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              • Jiffy

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                So there coming here to work, where are the jobs, how many have we got unemployed :scratch::stirpot::th scifD36::wallbanging:
                 
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                  We could solve some of our, and other EU countries', problems quite easily.

                  For example: Spain has over 25% unemployement and 50% youth unemployment. We have too many criminals and our jails are overflowing.

                  Simple answer - outsource.

                  Send all our criminals to Spain (nice warm country for them), pay the Spanish 50% of what the jails are currently costing us (their cost of living is lower) and they can look after them.

                  We've reduced our costs by half, increased the Spanish national income and reduced their unemployment. As we're already outsourcing a lot of our jails to inefficient companies we have also solved that problem.

                  Our judges would, also, not need to worry about there not being enough space and would be able to send down more of the people they want to.

                  We could extend this sort of thing to benefit fraudsters. How about sending them to Bulgaria, or one of the similar countries, as their penance for their crimes. Illegal or non-taxpaying immigrants can, also, be sent there and put on benefits. The benefits payments would be related to the cost of living in the countries we send them to. So that would cut our benefits payout by 80%.

                  I think I'm really getting into this way of thought :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

                  Vote Shiney for Prime Minister :yes:
                   
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                    As Union with Scotland (1706) was before the Treaty of Utrecht (1713), does that mean if they gain independence and everything is shared out that Scotland will get about 20% of Gibraltar?
                     
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                      I used to run Eton :blue thumb:

                      Whoops! Sorry! :doh: I meant that I used to run - at Eton Manor :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eton_Manor
                       
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                          Good morning Scrungee yes they get the Apes:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                           
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