Inconsiderate neighbours

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  1. pip

    pip Gardener

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    Quite right Pete, they are becoming the norm, and whilst trying not to open a political debate, I blame the powers that be and other influential beaurocrats for the current state of affairs.
     
  2. tiggs&oscar

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    Why not knock on the door and say you are concerned about the dogs? There is no need to be upset or aggressive just simply say you live next door and are concerned about the noises, is everything ok?
    I live under 2 young people who have a full grown retriever and a young pup in a small flat with no direct garden.
    Both lovely dogs owned by horrible, anti social people (as pete says becoming the norm)who come home every now and then and let them run up to their allotment to pee. I've had to ask them to not let them do it in my garden and the pup always runs into my patio area but today it used my bench to jump through my bedroom window and pee whilst I tried to get her out. The owners response was profanity. I'm actually in tears now as I can't believe I actually have to deal with this and those poor dogs are not being looked after properly.
    They are also locked up in the flat, I know this because when the owners do come home I hear loads of s****ing and banging then the dogs come tearing out.
    Monday I am ringing the SSPCA.
     
  3. Fran

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    Pip - if the parents shout and swear, going round to talk to the them about the kids behaviour may not be the answer. However if you can get to know them as people it may give you some levers to use. Otherwise its just a case of mitigating the the disturbance. Enjoy the garden when the kids are out - when they making a lorra noise or you know they're going to - go out for a walk, a meal, a day trip - whatever. Try very hard not to become sensitised to it - cos otherwise it will take over your life.

    Kandy - if your concerned about the pup or indeed the kids, you can report it. The RSPCA will check out a pet - without divulging the source of the information, as indeed will other agencis - including the NSPCA if your concerned about the kids.

    Both you and Pip have my total sympathy - I just have to put up with a barking dog one end of the garden, and a DIY nut, addicted to drills and angle grinders next door. Minor irritations only :D

    In all scenarios, its more about dealing your reaction to the situation - i.e doing things to lessen your stress, than dealing with the other people.Neighbours unfortunately you have to live with, good or bad. Whilst there are formal channels you can use - they can just exacerbate the situation.
     
  4. pip

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    I agree with TiggsandOscar about not being aggressive but, when dealing with certain people a passive approach can be read by them as a sign of weakness which they will feed off and the "right approach" can quickly turn into the wrong approach and add fuel to the fire. Bullies thrive on Mr Nice Guy.
     
  5. wiseowl

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    Hi Pip you have tried the Pen I respectfully suggest you go round now with the Sword. [​IMG]

    [ 06. May 2007, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: wiseoldowl ]
     
  6. rosa

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    neighbours they are a nightmare, mine have had me awake since 2 am fighting and banging the furniture around and these are not kids they are a couple around 30 year old, i,m going next door with my sword as i am sick of them most weekends full of drink arguing
     
  7. Paladin

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    Next door also had kittens...the kiddies had one each :eek: Not long after getting them they were throwing them out of the windows into their paddling pool!..Within two weeks all of the kittens had been rehomed..Next door never did find out where their animals disappeared to! ;)
     
  8. pip

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    Rosa, compared to your neighbours mine don`t seem to bad, at least I can get a good nights sleep although the fella on the other side to me does come in late now and then, not really a problem though. You have my sympathy.

    As regards the kitten story Palladin, I think people should be vetted before they have animals, even better, check suitability before they have kids! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  9. Celia

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    Have you ever tried to get a pet from the RSPCA? We got a rabbit from them last year. First we had to fill in a form giving details of everyone living in our house, our work habits and where the pet was going to live. We were then told that it's 3' x 2.5' hutch was too small so could we make it bigger (he now has a 3 roomed condo with outside area big enough to park a car full of toys) and then had to have a home visit to check that we were telling the truth and so their representitive could interview everyone living with us. Once we were allowed to take the rabbit we had another home visit to check we had kept our word 2 months later. We had the same trouble when we rescued our cat.
    It's buying them through private adverts where the trouble starts! I agree about the kids though :D
     
  10. tiggs&oscar

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    Celia,

    My nightmare neighbours got their second dog from the SSPCA. What's more it came from a local branch that specialises in abused/neglected dogs.
    There certainly wasn't an inspection of their tiny upstairs flat with a patch of overgrown grass strewn with dog dirt.
    And I'd be amazed if they had a follow up visit tha approve of the confinement of 2 large dogs whose exercise is a toilet stop in the "garden".

    TO
     
  11. leonora

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    A few years ago, when I was living in Leeds - sharing a house with friends - we'd put a lot of work into the garden, but the local kids kept coming in over the wall and trampling around. The family I stayed with had two SMALL kids, who found the older kids rather intimidating, and one day I went out into the garden and shouted at them, "This is private property and you are trespassing, go away!!!" It worked!! But I never meant to say that...I mean, I'm a Green Socialist, I don't BELIEVE in Private Property....but then, I also don't believe in letting kids trample all over the garden into which I've put a lot of work!!!
     
  12. rosa

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    my sympathy is with everyone who has the neighbours from h--- I feel shattered with being up like that iff they do it again tonight i,m calling the police, the noise was intolerable banging and throwing things and banging the doors.
    As far as having 2 large dogs in a flat it shouldnt be allowed, I have my litle rosa but there is no way i would have another one and iff i didnt have this large balcony i would never of got a dog. All i can say pip is good luck and do hope it get resolved but i cant see it somehow, they would drive me nuts listening to that in your garden its just awful.
     
  13. pip

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    Did you know Rosa, it is regarded as antisocial and I think it could possibly be an offence to make unnecessary noise between the hours of 11pm and 7am. A complaint to the local council will set you off in the right direction as they have a department set up for this kind of issue. [​IMG]
     
  14. rosa

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    hi pip i complained a while ago as they smashed the top hall window in their block, council were going to see them, it seems to happen at weekends when they are full of drink and yes it is an offence, iff they do it tonight i,m going to call the police.
    I am logging out as pip i,m just so tired nearly nodding off here, I prey they dont get me up tonight just couldnt stand it. nite nite speak with all tommorow
     
  15. Fran

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    The council can act on unreasonable noise and usually require a log of the incidents, with times and dates - private or council residence - and most have a mediation service. However with neighbours I am always wary of escalating a situation by making it formal.

    At least my drilling, hammering, anglegrinding neighbour has lessened his activity. For which I am very grateful.
     
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