Iran war build up - Just sabre rattling?

good point ... what I meant was that Iran has not started a war or been an agressor for hundreds of years

 

So, threatening Israel is not an act of aggression? Inciting other Arab countries to destroy Israel is not an act of aggression?

 

and what exactly was said in these threats? ....

don't just listen to what you hear on the british television ... you spend loads of time on the internet .... so, google and read what was exactly said, not what was 'twisted' by the western media

 

On 11 October the US government said that the Iranian Revo­lutionary Guards had plotted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the US, using a Texan car dealer and a Mexican drug gang. Regardless of the claim’s implausibility, President Obama gave it credence saying that Iran must ‘pay the price’.

• On 11 November the Inter­na­tional Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) produced a more sophisticated story about Iran developing a nuclear weapon. It presented old information as new and identified a Russian scientist as the brains behind the project, although he has no knowledge of nuclear physics. Israeli Prime Mini­ster Netanyahu said: ‘The IAEA report corroborates the position of the international community, and of Israel, that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.’ British Foreign Secretary Hague chimed in with ‘no option is off the table’. Meanwhile Israel has nuclear weapons but denies it.

• On 21 November the British government said it was cutting off Iran’s banking sector from the City of London. The UK Treasury said this was the first time Britain had used the powers of the 2008 Counter-terrorism Act to end banking relations with another state.

A covert war has been launched against Iran: three Iranian scientists have been killed in two years and on 12 November a blast killed 17 members of the Revolutionary Guard, including the architect of Iran’s missile programme, General Hassan Moghaddam. To really hurt Iran the imperialists could impose an embargo on Iranian oil exports from which the Iranian government gets 65% of its revenue, but this would be tantamount to a declaration of war on Iran, would wreak havoc on global markets and drive oil prices sky high – as well as pit the US and EU against China and Russia – it could be counter-productive.
Israel bombed Iraq’s nuclear facility in 1981 and a Syrian reactor in 2007. It encourages an attack on Iran to destroy its nuclear facilities, and threatens to do so itself. Israel has not undertaken any serious military action since Suez in 1956 without first consulting the US. It would be problematic for it to attack Iran. The Strait of Hormuz between Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Oman is 20 miles wide. Through it passes a third of the world’s seaborne oil supplies from Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Iran and Iraq. Iran could close it and the world would plunge into a desperate economic crisis.
Israel and its supporters play up the Iranian threat to garner support for Israel from the US, EU and their regional allies and to galvanise them for mobilisation against the anti-imperialist, anti-Zionist character of the region’s uprisings.

so .... the Iranian public are well cheesed off .... they just want to get on with their day to day lives .... they will burn flags and rant and rave .... the same as what is done in London .... they are just normal people .... leave them alone ... they have not done anything wrong

 

I would support war with Iran even if they were not looking for nukes. They are backwards nation in some serious need of westernising.

 

Dim, conspiracy websites do NOT represent the truth, they are just people clutching at straws, looking for excitement in all they see and read on the net. We will not go to war against Iran this, or any other year. So grow up.:D:D

 

treetreetreetree yeah America World Police!

Seriously, you can't go round forcing your way of thinking on people you consider backwards or you become as bad as them.

 

Yes we can if they violate human rights laws or look different :D

 

hmm, i wouldn't be too sure about that....

a million people marched in london against the iraq war, we still went to war and for what??

intact we are due a big ol' war about now, generally is one around the turn of the century... we all know what happened last century :(

war is big business, and with a multi trillion $ military industrial complex largely in control of things i don't see it suddenly stopping all of a sudden.

 

A million people? I don`t remember that. You on the same sites as Dim?

 

Well I don't look at those types of sites Daith but it is true that the Iraq war had a huge opposition, also if you look at the results of the poll half have voted yes and half no.
So It's not such a ridiculus idea in fact I think you mite owe Dim an apology one day

 

Apologise? Naah, never.

 

some people have short memories...

bbc - BBC NEWS | UK | 'Million' march against Iraq war

 

I've been a few protest marches. Thoroughly enjoyed them. All that chanting, listening to the funky drumming, being part of something big.

The thing is though, none of the protests I've took part in were actually about anything that I had strong feelings about. My first 'demo' march was against the abolition of student grants. I was a part time student at the time, so didn't get a grant anyway, and in any case couldn't figure out why I had to pay for my part time course, when full timers got it free. But the demo sounded like it was going to be fun, so I paid my heavily subsidised (by the student union) fare to London, and marched with thousands of other students.

A couple of other demos have happened since, and I've just tagged along for the fun of it. I can't even remember what they were about.

I wonder if anyone has ever compiled any statistics about what percentage of individuals in a demo crowd are actually there for the moral reason, and what percentage is there because demos are just good harmless fun.:D

Incidentally, one of the Anti-War demos was supposed to happen in Sheffield while I lived there. It rained that day, so only about 10 people turned up to stand outside the town hall. They left after being rained on for half an hour.