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    Now THAT looks handy!
     
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      I’ve used watering systems for over 10 years and been through at least that number of timers. You need to:-

      bring the timers in over winter

      empty any pipes left out in winter

      plan your system

      check enough water pressure

      My current timers are Orbit, newer model here on Amazon. I’ve had two of the older models now for 3-4 years (amazingly). You can set the timer to water at a particular time for a selected duration, but can also switch it to manual with a 10 minute default, hit the +/- to change.

      For piping use “nutlock” type connectors with 13/14mm (some use outside measure of 16mm for 13mm) pipe for the main supply and 4/5mm feeder tube/pipe. I can’t recall who was the best supplier of this, but there are a number out there.

      For big gardens or weak pressure you can look to make multiple outlets. The above connects to hozelock type fittings. I use these and standard hose to connect from the outside tap to the timer(s) and also from the timer outlet to the feeder 13mm pipe. This way you can connect and disconnect easy. Happy to try to help further if needed…
       
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        Very much appreciated, thank you :)

        I confess that my eyes are currently burning a hole in my head (been up since silly o'clock this morning) so I will have a proper look at that timer tomorrow. Also really appreciate your offer of further advice - no doubt the further I get into this idea, the more help I will need.
         
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        Sadly, that timer doesn't dispatch for 6 or 7 months @DiggersJo but it is one of a whole load on there to be fair.

        I have done a plan...
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        I am wondering if I should be treating this as three different things - and maybe start with a four way manifold and rather than going for a two way timer, go for two or even three single timers.

        Blue is front of house (baskets and pots) as well as greenhouse.

        Red is borders (north & east facing)

        Pinky purple is barrel planters

        Green is borders (south & east facing)

        I am wondering if I should bundle green and red together, have them done by a traditional sprinkler very early morning and/or late evening, so running on a conventional hose? I do have a good Gardena sprinkler in hand that should do most of it.

        Then I could have either a dual controller for the other two circuits, timed so they are not on together and not on at the same time as the sprinkler (pressure not fantastic here); finally, there would be a spare port on the manifold for my hose/pressure washer.
         
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        Plan looks very good. Unless you have a very big garden and/or low water pressure I doubt you will need more than 2 timers (1 might do). I have 2 off separate taps , one for the back and one in the front. I could put them both on together as we have super pressure, but normally put them on separate. To be honest you can get away without the timer (or using it as such), but if you are away often they are great. I would think about the different areas and see if you need an inline tap to isolate off any area at different times of the year. They can also allow you to control the flow instead of adjusting several sprinklers or drippers. I use dripper for the likes of beans with an individual one for each plant. Sprinklers for larger areas with flowers are spuds. But I've also used soak hose and dripline hose (13mm). Best thing I learnt was that it's flexible enough to easily change if you find it's not quite right.
         
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          The water pressure here is pretty rough, hence me taking a second thought at this - if everything was to come on at the same time, I think stuff at the ends of lines wouldn't get watered.

          I am thinking one of these, which helps with the isolation and flow control too - https://www.amazon.co.uk/HOZELOCK-M...710690046&sprefix=hose+man,aps,93&sr=8-6&th=1

          And then maybe two timers for two circuits, with the sprinkler on manual as and when. Not sure about soak hose... but will contemplate that.
           
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          Well, that escalated quickly...

          Amazon have his habit of doing the 'five months at twenty quid' trick and sometimes it helps make a decision...

          So, I have this coming - Amazon.co.uk

          As well as the Hozelock manifold (4 way) and a kit of hoses, drippers, sprayers, T-pieces etc etc...
           
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          Yikes that's an expensive timer! I think I had a Gardena in the past, but it may have been Claber. Last year I only used the timer to switch on in manual watering, default on mine is 10 minutes which is fine for me. I used the timer because I was always forgetting to switch it off otherwise...
           
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            @Fat Controller one of the troubles with the hozelock manifold is the outlets are blocked by the timer like this
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            from your Amazon link. But you can get around it by putting a length of hose between the tap and timer. It's better like that in any case as directly attached puts pressure on the outlet (they tend to leak by the way).
             
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              Seep hoses would be an alternative for the borders. You don't need a pressure reducer for those (nor for sprinklers) (edit: alternative to sprinklers, not timers/manifolds :doh:)
               
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                With low pressure here I set mine to come on very early morning before we are up, it's a bit more predictable without kitchen appliances and showers being run. I stagger the timings so none are on at the same time.
                 
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                  I found a much cheaper alternative, details to follow when I can post a link.
                   
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                    1. Looking back I've ordered a lot from waterirrigation over a number of years. They also do "nutlock" type connectors here on their site. I thought it was them that did "bulk buy bags" of connector type e.g. 20-30 "tee" connectors, but can't see them. These worked out much cheaper which is good as these small bits are likely much dearer than a couple of timers. I'll try to track down who it was
                     
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