Jessops in administration.

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  1. Sheal

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    When I decided I needed more than a pocket camera, Jessops was the place to go. When buying a camera on-line you can't discuss the differences and advantages between one camera and another and also what equipment you may need with it. I new nothing about them at the time and as a complete novice there were many questions I needed to ask. I bought my camera/package from them as I'd already checked prices on-line, Jessops were cheaper. Plus if I had any problems after purchase I could walk straight into the shop for advice.

    Having lost another camera/photography shop here in the last couple of months, the demise of Jessops leaves the island with just one which is too small to cope with demand.
     
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      Well, if that small shop doesn't take advantage of the situation they don't deserve the business, Sheal:dunno:
      I agree with you about retailers like Jessops and Jacobs as they did a good service for photographers giving advice, tips and help to people coming through the door. Jessops was undergoing a change in the way they wanted to attract people into the store by changing locations to Shopping Malls, upgrading the style of the shops, giving discounts where they could, running courses for photographers, offering low cost transfer of slides onto discs, and various other things. In fact, they were trying to do the sort of things that Clueless thought they should, but I guess time was too short for them to take any effect before the Banks moved in. I must admit I did look at Jessops on line to see if I could get my camera from them but they were almost £200 more than I actually bought it for.
      Jacobs was family run and had a good reputation on the Street but again it wasn't enough to save them. I think Jessops took note and maybe a little relief from the fact that there was less commercial competition on the street. I think that relief was misplaced as the danger was from the retailers on the Net and not the Street.:coffee:
       
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        The problem with our 'last' shop is, it is a family concern and down the years the place hasn't been updated and also sits on a back street. The shop itself will only hold three customers comfortably at one time, so really as you say they should take advantage of the situation now, move shop and expand slightly, to give it customer appeal. Having said that the father and now latterly the son who runs it know cameras and equipment inside out. :)
         
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          We had shops like that in nearby Northwich but they disappeared from the High Street a couple of years ago when the recession set in and kept on going. I do think high rents and rates played a major part in making shops too expensive to run. Also, although not in Northwich's case, the price of car parking was putting off customers. It's only now that Councils and Landlords are starting to reduce rents and rates to keep what businesses are still in the towns. They're also starting to reduce car parking rates.....but it's a bit late in the day now.
           
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          Funny you should say that. I've noticed that charity shops are starting to close here, that's a first! One of them has advertised for stock as they are desperate. Yet another sign of the times.
           
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            We were talking about Jessops at work tonight as one of the lads I work with like photography and has really gotten into it in the last year or so. He was telling us that he went to jessops for a lens and after speaking to the sales assistant decided on the lens he wanted. When he informed the saleman he wanted it he was told that he would order it and it will take a week to ten days to arrive. He agreed on this and asked for it to be ordered the price was £800. He went home and was on the photography forum he is a member of and posted about it. He was told by someone on ther that a certain internet based supplier was seling the same lens for £540 delivered. He order it and got it in 2 days. With a saving like that and quick delivery is it any wonder people are shopping online? Which unfortunatly puts other companies out of business.

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            This raises a point which causes friction between me, my DW and the managers of shops. Say, for example, my DW and I want a 'big ticket' item - that would be anything over around £150 because we don't have a lot of income - and the shop wants us to pay upfront and wait anything from two weeks to two months for delivery and I say there is no protection for us if the shop goes under. It happened to me a few years back and I lost £600 to creditors who paid their shareholders out of my money. I think it should be illegal. Any orders paid for and not delivered should be refunded first and in full. The shareholders agreed to take a risk by placing their money in the company, not me.
             
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            Well, Comet was a example of that, FB, when thousands of customers who bought goods and not received them when the Administrators moved in had to get in line with the rest of those owed. Also the vouchers issued were invalid.
            #Although I have deliberately given up having a Credit Card as I don't like owing money, paying the undeserved rates or the way the Banks seem to add on additional charges without even telling you, I think it's the only way to get protection against loss of money when buying large priced articles.:dunno::snork: I bought my Pentax K5 from Clifton Cameras over the Net using a Debit Card, which is in effect cash purchase, so I did take a risk as if they had gone into administration I would have lost the money. I think you have to give great thought these days of so many big name traders going bust when spending a lump of cash no matter how familiar the name:coffee:
             
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              Ouch, that's not good!!:mad: Obviously Jessop's creditors and suppliers are in a tight spot themselves and won't take the risk of further commitment. I did understand that there was some interest from buyers but I would doubt if that is on the table now. What a shame, they had a good reputation and did a very good service on the High Street. I still think the high Business rates and rents did nothing to help and probably were some of the things that bled Jessops of enough profits to keep going. Yet another empty shop unit on the High Street that won't come back.:dunno:
               
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              That was quick! If there was some interest from buyers Armandii, I wonder just who that would be? Jessops were a large chain. I also wonder if we'll see the stock that's left being sold off?
               
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              According to the reports Sheal, the stock is going back to a central warehouse from which it will be sent back to suppliers if they are entitled to it - I'd imagine that anything thereafter will get sold out to traders and will probably appear on market stalls or on ebay.
               
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                I think the interest might have come from Investment Banks and Hedge Funds, Sheal, as they are always interested in buying something cheap and turning the business around and then selling it on a quick profit.
                Well, it does say in the article that most of the stock will be returned to the suppliers as most of it would have been supplied on agreed 90 days credit terms. The Administrator will be interested in cutting down the debts to creditors and raising any funds from actual Jessop Assets to deal with staff and redundancies although the last is not a priority and they could take the decision to pay other bills and not honour the redundancy payments.:dunno:
                 
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                  Thanks FC and Armandii,

                  I feel sorry for the staff, particularly here, as they have nowhere to side-step too. It's all happened so quickly, unless of course they were told a while before the announcement was made.
                   
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