John's Allotment

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  1. HarryS

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    I was going to mention the mix of imperial and metric !
    Reminds me.... some of my friends are joiners , in the 70's the building trade was possibly the first to go metric. My friend went to the timber merchants. I want some 2" by 3" he said . The timber yard foreman said ,we are metric now its 50 by 75 . Ok my friend said I want 50 x 75 , about 12 metres please . No , no ,no said the foreman its priced per foot ! So you want 36 feet of 50 x 75 :snork: Now that's a true story.
     
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      What a great first year you have had John, vs the time expended on it thus far.
      Onwards and upwards from now on !

      Steve...:)
       
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        Sown parsnips today, an experiment using plastic bottles with the bottom cut off as mini cloches.
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          Hi John,

          Sorry for asking a naive question, but what is the advantage of a such a cloche?

          Thanks! :)
           
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            Well parsnip seed are quite difficult to get germinated at this time of year so these will give a little protection from the drying wind and raise the temp a couple of degrees. They are also completely free.
             
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              I missed this thread all of last year, just enjoyed playing catch up :)
               
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                Good idea.

                If the screw caps had been retained and fixed to a length of timber suitable for spanning that (and other) beds, the cut down bottle cloches could be screwed into the caps so they woudn't blow away in a gale (like we're having this weekend), or be dislodged by animals, etc., individual bottle cloches could be removed as seeds germinated and it would make the business of lifting (to check for germination) and replacing much quicker.

                Going to try this myself both on raised beds and open ground (using some pegs driven into the ground with larger than nail diameter holes in their tops) with caps fixed to the battens (might get some from Wickes whilst still 15% off).

                I already save larger size plastic bottles for snipping off bottoms and inverting on small canes pushed into mypex planting holes to make watering the likes of marrows, outdoor cucumbers, squashes, etc. easier, but now I'll also start saving all the smaller ones.
                 
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                  But you had to pay for their contents :rolleyespink: :heehee: I can't remember the last time we bought anything in plastic bottles :scratch: :smile:
                   
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                    I did wonder about leaving them on to trap the heat, then wondered if it would get too hot on a really sunny day.

                    That's a good improvement idea Scrungee, it would save a lot of time in future and will make them more stable. I buried them an inch or so and piled some soil around them to give them a bit of stability but they could well have blown away last night in the gales.
                     
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                    It would be tricky transporting orange squash without a bottle :snorky:
                     
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                      I thought that you could do anything! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
                       
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                        I was wondering about whether they would need a small opening cut in them, what I'll do is put one of my 2 USB temperature data loggers in each of 2 adjacent cloches, one with lid on, other left open and download data into single graph to see how what difference it makes. Plus I could check the differences above ground and just below ground at seed level and repeat with different size bottles.

                        Cor, I feel another 'you know when you're an obsessive gardener' post coming on.
                         
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                          Storm Katie was the worst storm we have suffered this winter, at home one of my palm trees started to go over, had to lash it back up with rope and I'm not sure if it's going to survive. The allotment wasn't too bad, mainly because it's much more sheltered down there, one of the bottles had blown away. At the moment the clay soil is claggy and sticky which is helping to keep the bottles in place. Once it dries out then they might easily become dislodged.

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                            Last weekend I got new supports in place for new raspberry and blackcurrant plants:
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