Kiwi fruit

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    Its kind of tradition that kids steal fruit from people's gardens. I'm not sure they actually eat it, I think its the novelty of stealing it that attracts them. Like a magpie picking up shiney bits of foil. Its no use to them, they must surely know that, but they take it anyway.
     
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    well you made your point.....if they don`t know it they will not steal it.
    strewberry tree , Arbutus unedo ,will produce really nice fruit and no one really know them , the plant it`s hardy as well .......even the normal passion flower will produce edible fruit , kiwi and recently I`ve seen this hardy paw paw fruit , hardy to minus 15 , on sale .
    plus if you really want to keep the kids away from your garden , why don`t you get a grizly bear ? lol.
     
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    Physalis is another one the kids wouldn't recognise. If they do though, there is a toxic variety too:heehee:
     
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      I`ve actually seen Physalis for sale at my local market and i was thinking to get some seeds out , but is one of them fruit don`t really know if it will grow in UK , as long as cassabanana , tomatillo , pepino and all the south american tomato relative.
      tree years ago I`ve managed to grow a goji berry from a dry berry , I was so pleased untill I`ve seen plant for sale at £1.99.
      I would be nice to know what alternative fruit are actually growing in UK.
       
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        Excellent idea for a new thread. I too would love to know what our options are, and I bet there are others too.
         
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          That's interesting. I'd always just assumed, without even researching it I'm embarrassed to admit, that they were tropical.

          On thinking about it, I now realise that my perception of Siberia is probably a bit unrealistic. I have visions of a snowy equivalent of a desert with nothing but snow, more snow, a few gales, and an oil pipeline in it. When I was a kid if it was very, very cold outside, grown ups would remark to each other that its Siberia out there, so between that and a documentary I once saw as a kid, that's my perception of Siberia.

          I think I should go and do a bit of reading up:)
           
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          Old name "chinese goosberry"

          Siberia seems a bit much, but it comes from places that have hotter summers than us.
           
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          Guys where do you lot get this information from? Kiwi comes from New Zeland , that why peoples from new Zeland are called often Kiwi !!!!!
          There are no Kiwi in Siberia ....as temperature over there can go down to -60 , overall the summer over there is still better then over here , my girlfriend grandmother is from Siberia and she was telling me that in one summer they used to grow up to 2 crop of veg. all because of the 24 hrs light.
           
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            But people from England are sometimes called Limies, because ships were loaded with limes and other citrus fruit before a long voyage, so that scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) was kept at bay. But back then at least, we couldn't grow citrus fruit in England, we had to pinch it/trade it with our neighbours in France, Portugal and Spain.
             
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            :loll:.....lol....nothing as changed since then , still get citurs from Spain and Portugal .
            I Rember that I had my first Kiwi around 30 years ago and they where really expencive , untill someone discovered that is possible to grow them in Italy as well.
            Btw why don`t you start a new treat about alternative fruit that you can grow in UK , I was just thinking that If we manage to grow tomato over here that should be a chance to grow other solanaceae should grow over here. Tryed pepino melon last year but , failed because of pollination .
             
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            The Kiwifruit vine ( Actinidia deliciosa) is native to China, although I know not which part. It was introduced to New Zealand in the early part of the 20th century, and renamed the Kiwifruit when they started to export it.

            There are species of Actinidia growing in other parts of central Asia, including Siberia, although I have no idea if these species provide edible fruits.

            If you want to stop the little gits coming back for more, some Passiflora are poisonous!!
             
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              Ok I just googled my self , according to wikipedia it`s original from China , But It seams that chinese peoples have never seen one , what i think it just one of them strong plants able to adapt to any condition except the tropic , it may originated from china but the commercial Kiwi is more like from New Zeland it must have evolved in a bigger and better form over there .About the Siberian kiwi , apparently it a small version of the commercial kiwi , as long as the Japanese and kamchaktian , a size of a grape it more of actinidia then a kiwi so let not make mistake and make the right choice of what we want to grow , in the picture there is a difference between the commercial Kiwi and the actinidia.
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                Both look nice to me. In the seed catalogue, there was also something referred to as a 'kiwi berry', described as being like a small kiwi that you don't have to peel, ideal for smaller and/or more exposed gardens.
                 
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                Now that i`m thinking about , the kiwi berry it`s even more original to grow, if you decide to grow them from seeds let me know if you have any spare seed they are really easy to germinate , in case let me know I will try to get some cutting for you , also I`m trying to grow passion fruit ( the edible) , pepino , cassabanana , Tamarillo, pinapple , laquat , pomegranate and few more.
                have a nice Christmas .
                 
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