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  1. silu

    silu gardening easy...hmmm

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    I'm purple. Specially looked at the weather forecast for here today as thought I'd lift the rest of my Pink Firs to store and wanted a nice sunny DRY day. Forecast for yup dry and sunny all day. Lifted spuds and within about 1/2 an hour it poured and still is chucking it down:wallbanging:. Livid
     
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    • Kandy

      Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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      Not very happy the moment.Had the building supplies eventually delivered yesterday afternoon ready for the screeding to be done today.The chap has turned up to do the work and after chatting,measuring up with his laser leveller,having a cigarette and a cup of tea decided to start work as he said it would only take a couple of hours instead of the 2 days the conservatory/double glazing people said it would take and he has nothing on for the rest of the day.:mad:

      The chap fills up his mixer with sand and then informs Mr Kandy that the wrong sand has been delivered (2 tonnes)and is refusing to work so now Mr Kandy has had to ring the boss and let him know what has happened.The landscaping chap also chatted and said if one 1 tonne bag of the correct sand can be delivered this morning he can make a start or else it will have to be tomorrow so that is another day wasted.Talk about a balls up(pardon my french):mad::rage::grumpy::wallbanging:
       
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        silu gardening easy...hmmm

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        Oh the joys of the building trade @Kandy you have my sympathies:grphg:. I had something similar happen to me with wrong wood I had ordered and vowed never again to be ordering stuff for any building work. Once bitten etc. Much better to let them order stuff and then if it is wrong it ain't your fault. I hope the guy isn't going to charge you for a wasted day?
         
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          Always have a supply and fit service! I too have been bitten by this and never again!
           
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            Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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            A32BA27E-B1EF-4813-9941-688CFD0B2E10.jpeg 91270B93-D1C1-4D84-A497-6E744CAB8EEB.jpeg Hi @silu It was the conservatory people that ordered the sand and had told the landscaping man that 2 tonnes of the stuff was needed as the floor area was 12 meters big but as Pat (landscaper) said no way was our base 12 meters :nonofinger: The sand that has been delivered is builders sand instead of sharp sand but not sure what exactly that means when it comes to floor screeding,so it is the conservatory people’s fault and they are paying this chap to do the work as they have I assume worked that into the quote that we have in writing for the job although I don’t know whether they are paying him for two hours work or two days work :scratch:

            I do know what you mean though as it would have been a disaster if Mr Kandy had ordered it but the boss of the conservatory business measured the base a few weeks ago so it’s his fault:snorky:

            We also had the sonic the conservatory business ring us up while we were away last week to arrange when this stuff was being delivered and the work done so Mr Kandy had to tell him it had all been arranged weeks ago.:wallbanging:

            PS Can you see the two door stops?:biggrin:
             
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              Did they order 12m worth to include the plastering on the walls?
               
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                Would they be peering out of the french doors @Kandy? Not so bad then if it is the conservatory lot's fault. Builders sand is softer than sharp sand and I think builder's sand is usually used for brickwork and sharp for flooring type jobs as it is maybe "stronger". This may well be wrong however as I am not a builder! I hope the building of the actual conservatory goes smoother. Sand is something I know a little about unfortunately. We had a sand arena build here for exercising the horses. The arena building company I wanted to use had a waiting list of 18 months so that was no good. i used local workmen. Huge mistake. They told me sharp sand instead of silica would be fine . No it flaming isn't unless you want to exercise maybe a whippet. Try walking on deep sand that doesn't bind together when wet. Add in a horse's weight of around 1/2 to 3/4 of a tonne and has fragile legs. You have to use good binding sand like good sand pie making sand and silica is the right sand to use.
                We had to take over nearly 200 tonnes of the wrong sand and replace with the correct stuff, nightmare. Luckily the neighbouring farmer had a dip in his field that he was happy to fill in otherwise god knows what we would have done with all of it. Nightmare and cost a fortune. Of course the so called arena builder said it would have settled in time and refused to take responsibility. Yes maybe it would have settled perhaps by the time my daughter will be drawing her pension in 30 odd years!
                All the above is somewhat boring but just goes to show how it is actually quite important to use the right sand for the job it is intended for.
                 
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                  8F5B9B38-BA2C-41A6-9006-ED9FFAD2CBDE.jpeg BBD0D1C7-100B-43AE-BC88-3ADB457F493D.jpeg @Loofah You don’t use sand to plaster walls so it was an error by the boss for ordering the wrong stuff:sad:

                  @silu Yes they are my little poodle and penguin doorstops and Mr Kandy used them sitting on a couple of house bricks to stop all the doors slamming when we had the heat wave and had all the downstairs doors and windows open:biggrin:

                  Sounds like you have problems in the past with wrong materials being ordered but at least you were lucky enough to off load the sand onto a neighbouring farmer to get rid of it.I heard someone else say they had a relative who had an extension built and the builders didn’t have enough of the right sand so used the kids play sand that was in the garden and told the house owner it was ok to use it when it wasn’t and it is now a waiting game to see how long this extension stands up for:yikes:

                  Anyway,the new bags of sand arrived at just after 1pm and the landscaper worked for two hours laying it and has made a good job of it so now we have to go and see what tiles we want:biggrin:

                  The conservatory is already up now after two of the dwarf walls had to be knocked down and rebuilt and although the brickwork isn’t perfect we shall live with it.....or move:snorky:
                   
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                    I know that and you know that, but did the boss man?!
                     
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                    Looks great @Kandy. The acid test is what happens when it rains heavily:rolleyespink:. Hopefully the guys have done a good job and your new "baby" doesn't leak. Good idea having a tiled floor just in case and I'd hold off putting any nice furniture in it until it's had a test to see if it's watertight:fingers crossed:
                     
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                      The A66!!!
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                      It's brilliant when there's no incidents :yay:
                      Throw in a collision :love30: it's a 2 hour ( ok, slight exaggeration, but with traffic) diversion :wallbanging:
                      Just want to add , glad there where no fatalities, I don't think I'd be whinging if there was :scratch: what does that say about me :sad::doh:
                      Ok, I feel terrible now :redface:
                       
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                      When I was going up to the Lakes the other week I wasn't too happy about the roadworks. I go up the A1 to Scotch Corner and then across on the A66. Usually a very good route.

                      On the A1 they had closed the road for roadworks at Peterborough - where it's four lanes each way - and didn't provide even one lane for the traffic. Resulting in having to drive through Peterborough :doh:

                      Then, on the A66 they had closed the road for a few weeks for repairs :gaah:. This added an hour and a quarter to our journey.

                      So, on the way back, we decided to use the M6 as the A66 was still closed. There were no road closures :hapydancsmil: but most of the journey had 50m.p.h. or 40m.p.h. restrictions as they were turning the M6 into a 'Smart Motorway'. :mute:
                       
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                        Good morning @Kandy when I was a plasterer many years ago ;):old: in new houses .we used builders sand for the rendering on the walls before we plastered them,the same sand that we used for laying bricks (mortar):smile:
                         
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                          I was shopping in our nearest town and came across a discount store and decided to have a look around. It was quite interesting but nothing caught my eye until I happened to see some Knorr chicken stock cubes at a much lower price than the supermarkets (it was a large packet - 16 cubes).

                          I rarely use stock cubes but do sometimes use them in a chicken casserole. I used a couple in the next casserole that I made and, after putting them in realised that the foil wrapper was a different colour to those I would normally use. These were silver whereas they are usually gold.

                          So I decided to examine things more closely and found that these contained MSG. A few years ago Knorr were advertising that they had changed over to non-MSG cubes. So I checked the date and they were OK.

                          Not liking to have MSG in our food (Mrs Shiney gets a bad reaction to it) I wrote to their customer (non)service department to complain. I got fobbed off with the usual comment about the packaging complied with EU regulations and that they do make a different product for the discount retailers (presumably to mean that if you buy a cheaper product you should expect to get an inferior product :mad:).

                          They also said that they always recommend that you should read the ingredients detailed on the packaging. This is all very well if you carry a magnifying glass with you! They still use the same colour packaging and the same logo on both. So it's not beyond the realms of possibility to expect it to be the same product. Particularly as they made a big thing out of going MSG free some years ago.

                          It appears to me that they are intentionally misleading the public into thinking they're the same product. All they need to do is add 'contains MSG' in the same position, and of the same size, on the packaging. Instead they have hidden it in their micro-printing of ingredients.

                          A wholly reprehensible and, as far as I'm concerned, unethical way to do business.

                          Another email has gone to them and I'm now also putting it on all social media contacts. :paladin:
                           
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