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Not in your street, pete???

Look, we all know in the real world, lots of domestic cameras are in contravention of the Data Act, and also the Police knowing that will look around for such surveillance cameras. But Courts can, and do, accept such evidence as a Defence cannot declare such recordings as illegal because it contravenes the Data act.

 

Evidence used in Criminal Courts are based on the validity of that evidence, pete, i.e: is it a proved record of a criminal offence. Just because the evidence breaches the domestic area of the Data Protection Act does not destroy it's validity in UK Courts.
I have to say that it's completely different in, say, the USA where the Lawyers would argue it into a mire of misdirections/injunctions/and petty "technical" points

 

Naah, it's your interpretation of illegal that's too fixed and narrow. Evidence from a, say, Drug Dealer who was found guilty of that offence could still give evidence about other people who were involved in that specific offence. Courts often get accused for being too narrow in their judgements and convictions and yet the views of those criticising those Courts are even narrower and restrictive. Believe it or not, Judges are far more realistic, experienced and worldly in viewing evidence than people with no real knowledge of the restrictions of Precedence, Legislation new and old. If you had a Black and White legal system going doing a narrow path of interpretation we'd still be in the Dark Ages where we hanged Children for stealing Bread, or chopping off hand. Criminal Law is pretty straight forward and all evidence is scrutinised to ensure fairness and neutrality, but to those of other thoughts that will never be the case.

 

And that is one of the problems where Office "Warriors" who have scant understanding or reading of the Section of the Act that covers the use of domestic surveillance cameras but are let out to air their views rather than the realities of the 2018 Act.
One of the other problems is that such domestic issues are not want some Police Forces want to deal with either because of the time factor or it's being placed on a lower priority level. The Police Force is also still understrength by around 22,000 personnel and that is not a help.

 

Oh, I know, weedaway. But it's not the Law at fault but the people applying, and interpreting, that law at ground level. When a case gets to a Court it is treated fairly and neutrally at least by the 5 Gentlemen that I know. To be honest, there aren't many Data Protection Act cases, involving domestic surveillance cameras, that reach Courts because they are not passed onto to the CPS by the Police for prosecution.

 

Sorry, pete, no offence intended, you know that.
Look, issues regarding Domestic breaches of the 2018 Act are not breaching any Criminal legislations, unless it could be proved that the cameras were being used for a Criminal Act, and there is a clear separation between Domestic and Criminal legislation, but if the Act was interpreted in the way you view it there would knocks on every door of a House using domestic Surveillance Cameras, millions of prosecutions, convictions and probably fines etc
So, having Cameras on a domestic abode that cover public or private areas, without permission,
is not a Criminal Offence but a civil offence and you have to understand the necessity of the separation of the two.

 

Now you get it

 

Not a happy bunny - bleedin' microwave has just gone kaput! Looks like the powder coating has failed on the door which in turn has caused arc to the body and singed a hole in the body coating - either way, it is knackered. Only had a new washing machine just over a week ago - hoping this is not going to be a cascade of failing appliances!