LATEST MOAN FROM YOU AND ME - 2022

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  1. gks

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    You would be better asking Dunelm to send out a replacement, it's highly unlikely DHL will deliver the original now. However, with the current strikes and we are now into the busiest time of the year for online shopping, you could still end up with another lengthy wait.
     
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      I have sent a message to the supplier, a big company in Bavaria, saying ...
      "This is a live plant and is now very overdue. It has been travelling for 16 days and may be dead if it ever gets here."
      Let's see how they respond. Obviously nothing will be delivered today or tomorrow,, here anyway.
       
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      Striking companies aren't helping themselves, Currys have already dumped royal mail because of it. Don't the strikers see they're making it impossible to keep the organisation going by their choices?
       
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        The Royal Mail announced yesterday that to get a delivery by Christmas the cut off dates are. Second class would have to be posted by the 12th, first class by the 16th, but I would not expect them to deliver all items before Christmas.

        We will not be sending out any online purchases from the 14h to the 3rd of January, this is displayed in a large banner on our website, you would also get an automated response should anyone contact us via email that we are currently closed. We will still get some making a purchase expecting us to despatch and deliver before Christmas though.

        If someone ordered a pallet of compost on Monday, it would be despatched Tuesday and delivered by Friday, if not sooner, some things are still functioning without delays.

        Due to these strikes by the Royal Mail, it has put an extra burden on other couriers as retailers are desperate to sell their goods they have purchased especially for the Christmas period.
         
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          The main sticking point seems to be modernisation and redundancies.
          Same with the railways.

          If they were just small companies they would have that kind of thing imposed upon them, you can't run a company at a loss because nobody wants any changes.

          That was where we ended up in the 70s when everything was nationalised.
           
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            On the issue of strikes, I'm going to stick my neck out here

            Some of those striking are already paid quite well. Sure, their pay is worth less now because of inflation, but that's true for all of us. I've always believed if you want better pay, get a better job, and if you can't get a better job because you're missing some skills that companies are looking for, then go out and get those skills.

            In my role I get paid quite well, but there are roles similar to mine that pay double. I could tell my boss I'm refusing to work until I get paid more, or I could dedicate some of my own time to develop the skills I'm missing so that I can get into those roles that pay double.

            I've never seen the point of strikes. Obviously they're aimed to cause disruption to hurt the employer, but they hurt the customers more. Doesn't seem like a good strategy for mustering public support. Like the train strikes. If people can't trust that the trains are running, even if there are no strikes announced on the days they want to travel, they're more likely to plan to take the car instead. Taking away your employer's ability to make money is hardly a good way to get more money off them.
             
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              Rules allowing strikes are abused to the point where they're just destroying the businessess. The unions have to accept that businesses must adapt to market conditions and systems change or they are no longer competitive. A part of that is that staff levels fluctuate and ways of working are altered. It's a wonder the underground isn't lit by gas lamps and steam locomotives!
               
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                They have refunded. Mow I wait to see if plant arrives and in what condition.
                 
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                  Although I am fairly well versed in economics, and have been both a union official and a boss, I still find it difficult to get my head around the economics of striking for considerably higher pay.

                  If all the demands were acceded to then prices would go up even more and it would be even harder to survive for people in the sectors that can't get higher pay. Those sectors are usually the ones that would shut down or make redundancies, therefore putting an even higher burden on the welfare state and necessitating an increase in tax.

                  I have no idea where it will go or how it can be resolved. :dunno:
                   
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                    Re postal strikes:-
                    We have been selling books from our years of collecting them and at the rate they are going it will take a minimum of another 50 years :heehee:. We sell them through Amazon who now insist on us providing a tracking number. We always sent the books through Royal Mail but they charge £5 for the tracking number. We now send them through Evri, where despite some bad press we have never had any problem. They provide a tracking number as part of the deal and there cost is a few pence less than the Royal Mail even without the tracking charge. All we have to do is book and pay online, print the label they send us and drop it into the local Co-op who give us a receipt.

                    More business lost by Royal Mail even without the strikes.
                     
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                      Much as I'm not keen on the government ATM, I do agree that wage rises need to be kept below the inflation rate, especially for those that are already on reasonable wages, for fear of starting the old wage rises fuelling inflation, we dont want that situation again.

                      I think if people can just hang on for a bit inflation might start to come down, but big pay rises will just keep it rising.

                      Always makes me laugh when a minister starts ramping on about, "well we have put up the minimum wage", it costs the government nothing, in fact they get more tax coming in and it puts small businesses into the red.
                       
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                        Just for info.

                        We had an item we bought delivered to us and it wasn't quite what it was supposed to be. There was no problem with asking the supplier to refund the cost and to cover the cost of return. They said there was no need for us to have the cost refunded as they will send UPS to pick it up (it wasn't a cheap item). Then they said that we need to package it in its original packaging. I said that the Consumer Rights Act 2015 doesn't provide for them to say it must be in the original packing (it was only a brown box) but only that the product must be fit for purpose. Of course, if the box was part of the item and not an outer box for sending it then it is a different matter because that would then be part of the item. They didn't argue but asked me to package it safely in any box.

                        Many retailers try that ploy. You can't be expected to keep every brown box (they tend to be mainly brown :smile:) you receive - especially at this time of year.

                        We keep all our boxes and packaging and it gets picked up regularly by the local hospice shop for them to use to sell things in.
                         
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                        I reckon we shall have to wait until 2024 for the rate of inflation to drop significantly. At a guess it will be 7% by the end of next year and 4% by the end 0f 2024. That's unless the strikes push it up even higher.

                        I reckon my guess is as good as the Chancellor's :roflol:. Make a note in your diaries :thumbsup:. Oh! I forgot, we can't afford diaries :doh:
                         
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                          If the price of fuel can be contained world wide, Oil Gas etc.
                          I think it would have the biggest effect on the inflation rate.

                          Maybe some intervention from government to stop a all the bandwagon jumpers and things could get better faster, but who knows.
                           
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