LATEST MOAN FROM YOU AND ME - 2022

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  1. CanadianLori

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    I followed that link and read the article. What a load of rubbish! She opened her mouth and said something stupid and made it eve worse by not shutting her trap. I don't think she has ever done anything bad to anyone. But now the woke are giving her back some of the poo she's been throwing.

    Kinda like the big game hunter getting trampled by the elephants! If you're going to throw stones... :heehee:

    And yes, if you look at the names of the big production companies throughout most of Hollywood's history, Jewish people were controlling a large percentage of the industry. And thank god for that! The rest of us over here didn't seem to have the creativity or skills to produce great entertainment most of which is pretty much categorized as priceless classics. And the creativity hasn't stopped. :dbgrtmb:

    And you have to remember that the U. S. teaches their children mainly U. S. History. Lots of them still believe we Canucks live in igloos for heaven's sake. The fact of the Holocaust isn't part of their curriculum. Sad, but you can't crucify someone for being ignorant.

    Whoopi probably has never bothered to explore any narrative other than the oppression of her "race". Sad but that is the climate in which she was raised.

    I have only accidently tuned into The View whilst trying to find something else to watch because to me, none of these gals have anything worthwhile to say. She has the freedom to state her opinion and I have the freedom to take it or leave it.
     
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    This really upset me, I didn't watch the video but read about it. It's disgusting behaviour and broke my heart. I'm a true animal lover and have dogs and cats myself and if anyone ever hurt them well ......
     
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      I read that an apt punishment would be to lock him in a cage with a hungry tiger and see if he can drop kick that.
       
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        Very true, makes my blood boil
         
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          If you watch the video the drop kick is a fairly gentle one, more of a push really, still not what I consider right, he then goes on to chase the cat and throws something at it.

          Next, the kid puts the cat on the kitchen worktop and he slaps it off.

          Looks like its all probably part of a game they have played before, and you can guess how the kid is going to turn out.
           
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            I'm just watching a programme on Ch 5, its that Ben Fogle bloke visiting all these drop outs that are living the dream out in the woods all away from the real world.

            I find it interesting but I hate the side of it pointing out how bad the real people in this world are.
            The way these people live in buildings built out of straw bales and living off the land is just stupid for the rest of us.

            Yeah lets all go green.

            Oh hang on, not really enough room to give everyone on the planet 20acres of land and burn wood to keep warm and make sustainable charcoal in the woods and oh yeah and just pop down to Tescos for dinner.

            Where do these people get their money from.
             
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              A similar idea was carried out by an acquaintance in the Dordogne. She and her young boyfriend set up a self-sufficient, off-grid 'eco', permaculture project. Funded initially by Madame's inheritance from her first marriage ;) They run courses on self-sufficiency and permaculture. From what I saw of it all, they attract a lot of young, idealistic drop-outs who end up doing all of the actual work (especially the domestic stuff). Whether they pay for the privilege, I've no idea, but I suspect they do, because however 'off-grid' you want to be, in France at least, the property taxes keep on coming in, and building/self-sufficiency materials aren't cheap!
               
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                I think we should be investing heavily in tidal energy. As long as there is a moon in the sky we get reliable tides. Orkney has so much electricity from tidal they have to turn it into Hydrogen because they have more than they need and more than the cable to the rest of Scotland can take.
                 
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                  Its a bit like most of the renewables, miles away from where they are needed.
                   
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                  I've mentioned this before. :) Most of the renewable energy/electricity production here is cabled through to the English national grid. It's then sold back to the people of Scotland who pay an extortionate price for it, if not the highest in Great Britain! If the Scottish government were to get their act together, Scotland could be almost, if not completely, self sufficient with the electricity it produces.
                   
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                    It's an important point that the right is desparate to make: why is anyone focusing on parties? No one cares about parties. Just move on from parties. Nothing to see, nothing to see. Look over there: there's a squirrel!

                    Actually: I think that there are quite a few who care about the primary causes which parties as a symptom come from. The spectacular self entitlement. The sense of privilege. The explicit statements from the PM that 'they are the party to rule' - and all the refusal to be accountable that comes from it. The view that theft of billions of taxpayer funds is not a matter for action. The implicit support for neo-fascist groups and the reliance of their tropes being dragged through the hard right wing popular press and the lurch of the Overton Window to the hard right. The destruction of the pilars of our society - not just those which might hold politicians to account though that is a key policy objective - but the NHS, education, local government, the union.

                    And the lies. The parties are a symptom of a political party which believes that lying - routine lying about absolutely everything and anything - is just fine and tickety boo.

                    The parties are a symptom, not a cause. But we excise cancerous growths as symptoms.

                    The living costs crisis is not new: its spread has just widened. If you think I sound like some extrreme lefty here (I'm not) the Rowntree Foundation has been vocal, with well researched evidence, on this for a very long time. There are 14 million people living in conditions which the UN describes as poverty in the UK. 50% of black children are raised in those conditions in the UK. That a squeeze is now hitting more people is dreadful - but it's an expansion of a disease which was already endemic but largely accepted and unreported.

                    So sure - let's pressure the government. But while incomes are deliberately kept low ('wage restraint needed' say the very wealthy who rely on having a population of people who just need a job, any job), jobs are unstable, speculation (not production) is THE primary activity in our economy, and private equity is god, then I think all measures will be mere political tinkering and window dressing. We can pressure the government: but their response will be a £200 utilities 'loan' - not a fundamental restructuring of our economy.

                    The parties matter: they tell us exactly who are masters are - and how little they give two smalll ****s about poverty in the real world. They don't and they never have - but crocodile tears abound right now.
                     
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                      There is quite a wide range of misrepresentations of CRT to be found out there, but this one is at the heart of most of them. A sense of white grievance. It is flagrantly untrue - and anyone wanting to find out what CRT is actually about can do some basic research on non-agenda'd sites and find out. Wikipedia has a basic summary: CRT is the academic study of the intersection of race and justice (primarily in black America) - and now has practical manifestations in a demand to teach real history, and to address historic ills - difficult though that might be. At no point does CRT suggest that racism is one way. It focuses on some historic injustices - but I've never seen a suggestion it is exclusive.
                       
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                      • pete

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                        Sounding like Nicola Sturgeon there Sheal. :biggrin:
                        It's not actually going into the English grid, surely its going into the British grid.
                        Electricity gets sent all over the place, that's how the grid works.
                        We even have connections with France and probably other countries, not saying that is quite the same as the Scotland ,England and Wales set up I wouldn't think.
                        When you look at it @shiney is also putting electric into the grid,or so he keeps telling us. :whistle:
                         
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                          You reckon? :roflol: Statements like "The implicit support for neo-fascist groups and the reliance of their tropes being dragged through the hard right wing popular press and the lurch of the Overton Window to the hard right." seriously make me doubt that, sunshine. :biggrin:

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                            I've heard that there are ways of transmitting electricity with no loss: but you have to freeze the cable to 0 degrees kelvin - and use a ceramic 'cable' which then becomes a superconductor. So not too effective in the real world then! :smile:

                            Local generation does need to become the norm. I've got a mate who is really into the Cooperative movement and says that electricty generation is the perfect use case: the consumers own it - and therefore care - as opposed to socialist models where the producers own it. Interesting theory - but don't really know much about it in practice. Our European neighbours are good at this stuff in same cases I hear.
                             
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