Latest Moan From You and Me 2023

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  1. Upsydaisy

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      I got an email from my energy provider. Seeing as I didn't take them up on their 12 month fix that had the exact same unit price as the capped price I pay now, they clearly are trying another way to fleece me. They're increasing my direct debit, to make sure my account stays in good shape over winter apparently.

      Great. Except by the end of winter I'm usually several hundred pounds in credit, then in spring I claim back the credit balance.

      I might ask them to pay me interest on the loan I effectively gave them for all the months I was in credit over last winter.

      EDIT: So this is what I've told them....

      I received an email from you telling me that you're increasing my direct debit. Seeing as I am usually in credit, and remained in credit throughout the whole of last winter, I'm a bit surprised by how much you want to increase it by. I'm happy to give Eon another loan over this winter, but with the bank of England base rate being so much higher now, I would expect interest on any credit balance. Alternatively we leave my direct debit as it is and I top up if and when required.
       
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        You don't have to accept the increase. You can tell them what you want it to be - exactly as you have done.

        With some companies you are able to say you will pay the bill as it arises instead of by a random number. If it's a company that does allow then be careful to check whether they charge a surcharge for not doing it by direct debit.
         
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          Probably not what everyone wants but I just send in my reading each month and they take the amount by direct debit.
          I dont like paying up front for anything but must admit I do with the water company, but they cant seem to grasp the fact I use a lot more water in summer than I do in winter, so they change my DD amount twice a year.
           
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            Yes but it's annoying because if I take no action, they will increase it. I wonder how many thousands of people will either just accept it, or not even see the message in the first place.
             
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              The subject moved on in this thread, but I'd just like to say I think Hugh Edwards wife did the right thing in going public and making a statement, its shut the whole thing down, ....for the time being.
              He is someone who I think a lot of people liked and are probably feeling sorry for what has occurred and the situation he is in.
               
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              The problem with recycling is that more and more they want us to sort it all out, we could end up with 20 different bins in another few years.
               
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              A bit of standardisation across the country wouldn't hurt. Every council doing things differently is just barmy
               
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                The trouble with recycling is it ends up in the sea, via some third world country that we've paid to make it their problem instead of ours.
                 
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                I think that was once the case, but not sure now.
                 
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                They do that with me but I just change it back :)
                 
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                I wonder if she did it to stop all the speculation that it was one of his colleagues. Quite a brave thing to do.
                 
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                  I hope you're right. But there are plenty of recent documentaries from credible sources including DW News and the BBC on YouTube about it.

                  I do know that a growing number of countries have introduced, or are in the process of introducing, new laws banning the import of foreign recycling materials.

                  It's not that I'm opposed to recycling. I just think there's a tendency to dump things in the bin and not question what happens next. Going back a good few years, I don't know if it still happens, but one of the Scandinavian countries was actually buying rubbish from other countries to fuel their incinerators that doubled as power stations. I think that's a better idea, but people hear the word incinerator and get upset about the co2, while often the same people give no thought to the co2 in the whole recycling process. No fault of anyone's, we've been told for decades that recycling is good, burning things is bad.
                   
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                  I'm not sure what you are referring to. :scratch: I just phoned my water company and told them I wanted to change my DD. As the figure I was changing it to was reasonable they did it straight away.

                  I did a similar thing with my power company and reduced it for Spring and Summer and said I would get back to them in the Autumn to agree another change.
                   
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                  Sorry. I quoted the wrong person. Or read something wrong. Not sure what I did there. I'll have to read back and see if I can figure out what or whom I meant to reply to :doh:
                   
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