Latest Moan From You and Me 2024

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  1. Fat Controller

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    My moan today is councils... in particular for me, Surrey County Council.

    A few years ago, they decided to upgrade the traffic lights and the pedestrian crossings at this junction:
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    It took months, however in fairness was much needed work as the traffic lights were ancient and it is a really busy junction.

    Last year, they finally did the same with the next junction down (just out of sight in the distance in that image) causing a fair old bit of chaos, however given how dangerous the junction was, it was actually very much needed.

    However, this time, they have started again on the junction in the photo. Not a clue what they are actually doing, other than "junction improvements" for FIVE months. As of Monday, they took this dual carriageway down to one lane, so you can imagine the traffic. Worse still, the road on the right at the junction shown is fully closed.

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    There is an alternative route for traffic (shown on my poorly drawn on map above)... yet this afternoon I learned that the council are also about to start work on the crossroads in the blue square and that will last until the end of July. This junction was renewed very recently, with a road closure on one side and lane closures from January through to May of this year... and now, apparently, they are going back to it.

    Where do these muppets expect people to go? To get to work, I will have no choice but to go east for a couple of miles, then head toward Feltham before cutting back over to get to the other side of all this nonsense. And as mentioned on a separate thread, this is really bad for the flower show.

    They never thinK!
     
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      I sometimes think its part of a bigger plan to get traffic off the roads, cause total chaos and people will stop.
      So where does all this fit in with all the election rubbish about "growing the economy".
      Whatever colour, stop sodding up the roads if you are intending to get us out of this mess.
       
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        Putting my fair head on, that other junction that they improved from the start of the year, they actually have made it better - especially so for pedestrians as there is decent crossing points now, with good tactile paving and space for bicycles and wheelchairs. I get it - a lot of the stuff around here dates back to the 70's and isn't up to modern standards. It is doing both at the same time that really grinds my gears.

        And don't start me on their grass cutting...
         
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          Would that be the intermittent grass cutting where they leave it so long that the grass is a foot high then just leave the cuttings dumped across pavement and road?
           
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            They do even better than that here in Spelthorne - on the main roads, they let it get to 3ft, completely obscure the pavement, then eventually drive a tractor up the road that has a mower attachment (the kind they use to cut hedges) and rip everything to shreds pouring dust clouds everywhere.

            In the streets, they cut some bits and leave other bits that are literally a pavement width away. I've no real need for a petrol mower for my garden (small) but am considering getting one purely because it would be easier to cut the grass out front.

            Sometimes I wonder why we pay council tax.
             
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              At least there was an alternative route.
              Heading back from Heathrow last Friday I decided to come off the M6 at the Kendal junction and come up the coast road, big mistake. I did not know there was a road closure in place and I was only 7 miles away from where I live. So here's me thinking coming the coast road would knock 20 minutes off the journey and it ended up adding an extra 30 minutes.

              The road is closed in both directions from 7pm to 5am, with an escort vehicle operating but only from 7pm to 10pm with total closure afterwards to 5am. When I arrived there at about 1ish in the morning there was over 30 other vehicles that I could see. People were already out of their vehicles saying that we would all basically have to go back and either head through the lakes or go back to the M6. I was only 7 miles away from home, but to get back I would have to go back to Newby bridge to cut across to Windermere coming through Keswick to head home, the diversion is just over 100 miles and probably would of taken me 2hr 30 minutes; Anyways the police eventually turned up and insisted they let us all through, there was no signs of a road closure until you actually got within 300 metres of it, muppets.
               
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                They cut the grass outside my house, and then the bloke with the blower comes along and blows it all back onto the verge, dont park your car out there, the stones and other crap will ruin your paintwork.

                They even smashed a rear window where I used to work blowing stones in the air.
                Nothing to do with me was the reply when the person was challenged.
                 
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                  One of the councillors on the electioneering posted that he'd contacted the council about it. He posted their reply that the grass had been cut and pavement cleared 'to perfection'. This was true - all the grass had been blown into the road!
                   
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                    they will
                    Now about grass cutting :heehee:not cut this year I did phone up and they said is it dangerous and I said yes as someone is going to get lost in it soon:heehee::heehee::heehee:

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                      Sort of glad it isn't just our council, but it is a really sad state of affairs to be honest.
                       
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                        After coming across a young Adder snake in my electric metre box on Monday I was informed by someone in the village that their dog had been bitten by one only last week while it was sniffing in the dyke.

                        No more strimming for me, the grass is dangerous, volunteers, anyone?
                         
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                          ..must...not...make..joke...:mute::whistle:
                           
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                            I won't disagree that population growth is an issue. But there is a massive difference in resource consumption in different countries. Countries with soaring populations aren't necessarily consuming more per person.

                            The average Kenyan or Tanzanian may have 4 children on average to a Brit or American's 2, but chances are they will not travel far in their lifetime, they eat locally and seasonally, their homes often don't have electricity, so their fuel, food and water consumption per capita is far lower.

                            The planet can sustain a lot more people living like that, than those with heated swimming pools, tennis courts, multiple large cars and pets, that take flights regularly.
                             
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                              Yes, I agree, but are you prepared to live like they do?

                              You only have to see what is happening now during the cost of living problems and a reduction in living standards, and people are not happy, nobody wants to lower their living standards.
                              Especially to save 1.0% of the worlds emissions.

                              The other thing is I bet that Kenyan family is setting their sights higher to match ours.
                               
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                                That's worthy of a French 'deviation'. They put a diversion sign up, sometimes even a 'route barrée à ...kms' sign. Fine. You follow their arrows and then you're own you're own, sunshine :biggrin: They've diverted you off into the (beautiful) French countryside and nary a diversion sign or even a sad, lonely arrow to be seen. Still, it's one way of getting to explore the region......
                                 
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