Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

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  1. Tidemark

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    Ahhh, this always makes me giggle. The great man’s excuse for not wearing a uniform….

     
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      I guess the world hasn't said or done anything as nothing has actually happened to respond to:dunno: I think the author just has their knickers in a twist and is giving trump more air time which is exactly what he wants
       
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      Trump is threatening tariffs on all countries, not just Canada. I haven't seen Canadians coming to the aid of the UK, and we have an even worse Prime Minister than you have. I'm assuming he hasn't actually resigned yet (Canada that is).
       
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      Don't forget the last 3 Tory PM's, who may be the worst ever.
       
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      Yes, as I said, the columnist's comments were preemptive which is exactly what I pointed out in my original post and was moaning about it stirring things up before Trump was even in power. I was a little surprised however that some here jumped on ME as though we Canucks had no right to ask for support, even verbal.

      I believe you read that quote as being, in it's entirety, my own opinion. I, personally did not ask for some support, however now I've read these posts, I realize that even if Trump tried to take over Canada, we would be SOL if we thought others in the commonwealth would help.

      I do remember my father talking rarely about his two full bombing missions in Lancasters and dropping incendiaries on Hamburg in retaliation for their strike against Coventry and it was something that haunted him until he died. My uncle was starved to emaciation in a German POW camp after being shot down as he piloted a fighter to defend England.

      I do remember when, in the 60's, England was in dire financial straits and we campaigned everywhere here to collect money to send over. We bought anything we could get our hands on that was genuinely made in England. There were even Bobbies at every shopping center collecting buckets of our donated money. We all thought it the right thing to do.

      We have a history of trying to help others. We went down to the states with electric workers and rescue teams when Katrina blew through and many other times due to terrible natural disasters. Right now we have our water bombers helping California and have sent fire crews to help. We will probably be sending electric crews and engineers soon too. That's what neighbours do. Well the neighbours with a U in North America do. I guess we Canucks are considered stupid for helping the U.S. but that is how true Canadians operate and Trump is not president yet.

      I was startled by some posts here but it's a good thing I know where things stand. :sad:
       
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        Sorry but I didn't and cant understand what the writer is trying to say.
        I've just read it again and I'm unsure what threat Canada is facing.
         
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          @CanadianLori The UK and many other countries are quick to send aid to help with disasters be they earthquakes, tsunamis or wildfires. It's not the sort of thing that gets publicity in the press who prefer the more sensational disaster and political or sexual scandal kind of news.

          The UK also recognises and appreciates the contributions made by the Commonwealth countries to fighting WW2 and in other conflicts. Whether or not the younger generations are aware of it is another matter, given that history is not a mandatory subject.

          I really have no idea how the USA can think of acquiring Canada and Greenland by force and we get very little news here about Trudeau and co, just as, I'm sure, Canadian news doesn't cover much of UK, European or world politics and news but please don't think your are alone and that we don't care.
           
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            That's just it. The writer was stirring things up over threats. The orange guy is not in power yet. My feeling is, okay, after Trump is elected, he'll slap a 25% tariff on our
            goods going down (and it's a lot of trade involved- they are our biggest trading partner) and do other things to try to economically to force Canada to it's knees and beg to become the 51st state. It is a threat, but in reality, I don't think long term it would work for them. I think as soon as he does that, their manufacturers, anyone buying petrol, etc will protest because the cost of their goods just went up 25%. I do think they'd have another revolt if that happened. The same thing happened with soft lumber and other goods over donald's last reign. And he backed off.

            But he's not in power. Yet.

            I didn't ask for support, only moaned about how some of these columnists who try to make news out of their opinions and stir the pot at the same time. And that, before donald is in power!

            I was just startled that forum members decided to point out that yes indeed, if donald brings trouble for Canada, because we haven't done anything wonderful for you lately, there will be no moral support!

            I'm quite gobsmacked that this segway which I did not intend, brought out such a sad truth. :sad:

            Addendum: I know not all members think alike, well except when it comes to gardening :)
             
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              If the orange one does something stupid to Canada you can bet your boots the UK will help out. No-one is taking what he says seriously at this point, however, as he's widely regarded as a pot-stirring Muppet.
               
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                I didn't quite mean that. Rather, that one country squeezing another economically is a different type of battle to warfare.

                Economic tariffs imposed by a super-power are tough to fight, either alone or as a group of countries. That is not to say we wouldn't want to help or try to do so. :) We get very little news reported from Canada. From what I do know, it seems you have been sucked into the wealth gap problems that have afflicted us so badly here for, well, centuries really, though these issues have escalated at speed since the early 2000s. Shortages of affordable housing, inflation, insecure employment, and so on, are, as I understand it, really huge problems in Canada too. I'm afraid this is where our govs have led us, quite knowingly, and of course, a shock on top, like tariffs, can feel like the last straw.

                I'm not sure what any of us can do to dilute Trump's power. The political system in the US, and to a lesser extent here and in Canada, is rotten to the core, set to serve the interests of the wealthy and everyone else be damned. You are not alone. We, the 90%+ who are not super wealthy, are all in this together wherever we live.
                 
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                • pete

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                  Personally I dont take anything Trump says as anything more that hot air.
                  He's a big talker, but at least last time he got reigned in on some of this ideas.
                  @CanadianLori
                  I agree, the person who wrote that article is probably another wind bag that is out to stir trouble also, maybe drive a few wedges of his or her own, probably freelance and just trying to make a name among a certain sector of society.

                  That's if I understand it correctly, it just sounds all a bit weird to me to be making those kinds of comparisons.
                  I'm sure Canada is big enough to stand up for itself, but equally the Commonwealth link would be something Trump probably hasn't even thought about, just has he hasn't taken into account the Danish link in Greenland.
                  Greenland appears to be slightly different though I must admit.
                   
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                    If there's anything we've seen in the past decade it's the rise of growing dissent within and between countries, blocs, and unions. It's, to my mind, planned and intentional and designed to raise conflict of all sorts.
                    This sort of journalism, the use of AI and bots, state sponsored hackers, control over social media...they all contribute.
                     
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                      I've had my laptop about 2yrs now, suddenly I'm getting messages that have nearly run out of storage and soon wont be able to add any more picture, I need to upgrade to One Drive.

                      Just checked and I've still got lots of space, bloody Microsoft.
                       
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                        Just disable OneDrive. Right-click on the icon in Taskbar > Settings.
                         
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                        • pete

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                          I cant see that option.:scratch:

                          I think I've done it now, under the heading of, quit one drive.:biggrin:
                           
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