Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

I suppose what he really wants is to be a member of NATO. That would put the kibosh on any more Russian aggression. So simple. Just a few signatures on a bit of paper..

 

Yes I see your point but what is the alternative, by the time the minerals have all been mined there will likely be a different .president in America and Putin will be dead.

Its a sad situation but if America goes for a military option it will develop into WW3, a kind of civil occupation might, just might, get passed Putin.

Putin is not going to backdown, he's winning so why would he suddenly vacate all the land he's grabbed.

 

Putin has been hanging on for Trump to take over, as it has definitely been weakened. However, Europe has probably been compromised by all the security secrets that Trump has already handed over to Russia.
The USA has benefitted from not being actually involved in the conflict while handing over almost obsolete weapons, which would have cost a fortune to dispose of, while manufacturing more to sell across the world.
It will probably fall to the next President to start reinforcing Alaska, if it hasn’t already been annexed for its resources. Trump has been spouting forth about the lovely ocean between him and Europe, but evidently none of his lackeys has been brave enough to take the map off him, and show him a globe. Won’t matter during his tenure, given his ‘friendship’ with Putin. However, Alaska has no land borders with the rest of the USA, any land reinforcements would have to cross Canada - whoops.

 

Ukraine joining NATO would kick off WW3, I think, though I agree that is the level of security Zelensky needs.

 

It isn’t possible to deal with Putin whilst the US is backing him. And no country in that region is safe in these cirs.

 

I'm not sure where everyone gets the idea the US is backing Putin, Trump has talked to him if that's what is meant by backing him.
Probably did a bit of crawling around him but then Starmer has done the same around Trump.
Its called diplomacy.

It will never end until people start talking

 

All Trump’s criticism is of Zelensky, not Putin. If Trump were genuinely on the fence, he wouldn’t need to harry and insult Zelensky, accuse him of being a dictator or ungrateful or wanting war. The Kremlin has said Trump aligns with their “vision”.

Ukraine has been subjected to an unprovoked, prolonged attack. Any “discussions” should be on what reparations Russia is going to pay.

 

I don’t think Trump is capable of anything resembling diplomacy. He says what he feels like, and has not acknowledged that Russia attacked Ukraine, and he has seemingly been careful not to criticise Putin. I don’t think they are friends, I think Putin has a strong hold over Trump, and is now calling in the favours. Probably bailed Trump out of his bankcruptcy, and the rumours of vote rigging in Trumps election are nearer the truth than rumours.
I think everyone is desperate for peace, apart from Trump who just wants an end to the war. I suspect that all he wants is a share of the resources, and if he can’t get those from Ukraine, he’ll get them from Russia, so he’s not bothered about who wins, just wants a quick result.

 

Then there will be no discussions and we are back to square one, throw in more money and kill more people.
Until Russia takes complete control and it will end.

Its very easy to say what "should" happen, but not so easy to make it happen.

I just hope they keep talking and thrash something out, it was going nowhere when Biden was at the helm and Europe were sitting on their hands, at least Trump has stirred some action, even though he comes across as obnoxious that is not a good reason to not try and sort something out.

 

Can you negotiate with a murderous dictator though? How likely is Russia to stick to any terms? And how reliable is Trump’s word, for that matter?

There’s no fair solution. Deaths and destruction are irreversible. But we have to think forward. Appeasement never works longterm.

 

So you prefer all out war, hardly looking forward to my thinking, not saying its the ideal out come but better than any others I can see.

 

It is worth remembering that the 1994 Budapest Memorandum was signed by Ukraine, Russia, America and the UK in which Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons (the 3rd largest in the world at the time) and in return the the other countries pledged to respect Ukraine's independence, sovereignty and existing borders. That pledge was broken when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and got away with it. If the US, UK and possibly Europe had stepped in then, we probably wouldn't have had the current situation. Putin was just trying it on and seeing just how far he could push.

He'll do it again, as bullies always do.

As will China against Taiwan and possibly Japan.

Putin is personally fixated on the idea that he has to get Ukraine absorbed back into Russia which he wants to make into a superpower. He'll do anything to achieve that aim and doesn't care how many people are killed.

I would hazard a wild guess that he's blackmailing Trump to toe his line.