Masks - yes or no?

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  1. Scrungee

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    There's no consistancy between different shops 'here' or the same shop(s) in the next town or even on the other side of town where there's 2 of them. They all vary, so somebody might think it's OK everywhere because their local store is OK, but another store in the same chain elsewhere can be a nightmare.
     
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      When asked this morning how long this masks wearing thing is likely to go on, Matt Hancock said, he could not say, he ended up saying, for the foreseeable future.

      That's strange because up till now they have always come out with a time limit.
      Furlough, lockdown etc.

      I'm guessing because this doesn't involve the costing government any money it can go on forever.

      I think it might backfire if that is really all it's about.
       
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        More like a, then, misplaced "'ello, 'ello" attitude, Scrungee,:doh::wallbanging::cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee: by individual Policemen who didn't have "reasonable" reasons to use a power they didn't have in the first place without the authority of the Chief Constable.
         
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        So round your way they are consistently inconsistent :heehee:

        In our area they are just consistent. :biggrin: I think I shall stay here. :)
         
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          During a break at work today we had a coffee and "poke" at the problem of inconsistency of the way masks are being approved/disapproved, used/not used by by big business/local business and the General Public.
          At the beginning nobody but nobody knew anything, as Global Medicine Authorities keep stating, about this particular Virus, it's infection rates, how deadly it could be, what long lasting effects it could have on those affected, or even how to treat it.
          So, like most things, it has taken time and experience making decisions with the information supplied by Medical and Scientific Experts which, at the time, seemed more like guesses than facts with the inevitable mistakes, changes of opinion etc which has been painful to many families throughout the World with the losses they have suffered.
          But if you step back a bit and take a breath it really comes down, mainly, to the individual as to whether they recognise how deadly Covid 19 is or even if they are socially responsible enough to care about taking measures that can help, to some degree, restrict the spreading of the Virus. Governments can pass as many Laws, restrictions, curfews, as they like but if any individual(s) think it's not even true that we have a Pandemic, or that's it's against their Human Rights, or they just don't give a damn about anyone else but themselves and will continue to ignore advice on basic medical opinions to wash hands frequently, wear a mask, etc, then infection and deaths will continue.
          So, all in all, after putting down our cups of Coffee, we came to the conclusion that really the main factor in suppressing the Pandemic is the individual. You have only to look around you in the UK, see what is happening to the USA and other countries where individual social responsibility differ so dramatically to see how infection rates can soar or be kept under control to some degree.
          I'm for wearing masks, although I don't really like it, now that I know more about the evidence of the benefits of wearing one. I've been wearing one when shopping for weeks, and in the office where I work since I returned to the Office, but I rather not see legislation passed making it an offence not to wear one everywhere.
           
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            Armandi; wise, wise words. Thank you.. I am a bystander to actual mask wear as for a long while due to immune system damage, I am never near another human being. But were I ? And yes as another poster has said, we are all in this together. Folk like me and many others in greater danger than most from covid are deeply thankful that masks are worn. My role is to make masks...
             
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              Mrs Scrungee was reading this morning about a shopper in Scotland (where facemcovirngs are already compulsory) wandering around a store wearing a balaclava!

              So how did he get into that store? :scratch:

              :ideaIPB: Maybe he went in wearing in backwards.
               
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                Not a problem as long as it covers the mouth and nose, the word facecovring is use not mask
                 
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                  It was a balaclava that covered everything except the eyes, nose and mouth.

                  Balaclava_3_hole_black.jpg
                   
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                    We all know that's you, Scrungee, on a shopping expedition:doh::dunno::heehee:
                     
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                      I was reading our news here in Ireland, where the big debate just now is about people coming in as tourists from the US and there being no mandatory quarantine. An expert points out that we are not trying to eradicate covid and that has been proved to fail ie in Australia etc, China as as soon as strict restrictions are relaxed back it comes and we cannot isolate a country totally and permanently without disastrous results.. We are aiming to contain it and thus eg masks. face coverings in public play a major role. They are also pointing out that covid-19 will be with us for years to come. Hence the more we accept and get used to these measures like face masks/coverings the more we will succeed and protect each other as well as ourselves. until we get an effective treatment/ vaccine. It is as others are saying a social responsibility and caring.
                       
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                        If anyone is looking for reusable masks, I would recommend the Delphis ones from Robert Dyas (probably available elsewhere too). £20 for three washable masks that have an elasticated drawstring that goes around the back of your head (not your ears), soft for comfort yet seem to so far be durably constructed. Each pack comes with 10 filters that insert in a pocket on the inside of the mask, and filter out any particles bigger than 5 microns and each filter can be washed five times (washes in the mask), with 10 replacement filters costing £6 or thereabouts.
                        Better still, they are made in the UK.
                         
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