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    And I agree, but the mind can play funny tricks. The more I try to stop worrying abut it, the worse the worry gets.

    The doctor told me I didn't have to take them anyway. I think he prescribed them more for anxiety than the heart beats.
     
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      I take a different approach.

      I'd talk openly and frankly with the GP to understand the medication being prescribed. I like to understand why they think I need it, and if there are any lifestyle changes that might reduce the need. Sometimes there are, sometimes not.

      To give an example, but bearing in mind everyone is different and what I know might be completely wrong for someone else, a few years ago when my wife was diagnosed with excessively high blood pressure and they wanted to use medication to control it, we asked about exercise and diet changes. The end result was I, the wife really pushed herself to get fit. Me, with my personal interest in nutrition, pushed certain diet changes, and she went back to the GP a couple of months later. Her blood pressure was normal.

      I stress that it's not a one size fits all. I share this anecdote as an example to illustrate a point. The point being that sometimes, certainly not always, there are other options to explore.
       
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        @Clueless 1 v2 :goodpost:

        Good morning exactly what I have always done based on my past experiences especially now as in this part of Kent we don't see a doctor anymore its the pharmasist that rings you up when and if you can get the appointment:smile:
         
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        For a 'senior' a heart rate being in the range from 65-105 (depending on resting or taking exercise) is considered very normal. So you appear to have nothing to worry about. There is a reasonable scope either side of that for it to still be 'normal'.
         
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          My hubs suffers from it, once it took 2 days to get his heartbeat back to a normal rhythm in hospital. We were always having to call the ambulance out but in recent years it seems to be behaving better . It took a while to get his medication right but we got there. You have to take in to account all the pro's and con's as with everything you do in life. In hubs case the pro's outshine the con's.:biggrin: :dbgrtmb:
           
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            Have been on them for 20 years but for the more common reason of high blood pressure.
            Generally they have been trouble free, in the early years did suffer slightly from cold fingers in the winter mornings, aka mild Raynaud's Symptoms.

            Think for your condition it depends on what size tablet you are given, so be prepared to talk to your doctor to increase or decrease the dose accordingly if you experience any other problems, though would think monitoring your blood pressure and heart rate on a 7 day chart will help you find the happy medium.

            @shiney suggest 65 as a typical low heat rate, though have found with Bisoprolol it can take it well below that without a problem, though again do mention it to the GP.



             
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            I've not been on that particular tablet but have been on blood pressure tablets for probably 20 yrs, first ones I was on was a beater blocker, but on other stuff now.
            A while back I found I couldn't stay awake midday and when I checked my bp it was something like 70 over 50, so the doc reduced my tablets.
            But some doctors seem to be more concerned about bp than others likewise cholesterol.
            My heart rate varies from around 70 to 90 according to my lizard.:biggrin:
             
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              @ricky101 I took that info from the British Heart Foundation website. :blue thumb: :).

              My resting rate is about 55 but don't know about the high point as I rarely do anything to raise it :whistle: :roflol:. The gardening I do is non-strenuous and the walking I do is not normally at a high pace.

              Although quick searches on the net tend to say it should be no higher than 140/80, once again, this can change with age and the NHS say that for older people it can be OK up to 150.
               
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                What would they know about BPM :heehee::heehee::heehee:
                 
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                  I didn't think of that!!!! :doh: :roflol::roflol::roflol:
                   
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                    Thanks for all the advice, but as I said I've decided not to take them.
                    The doctor only prescribed them after I told him about my anxiety, from which I've suffered all my life and am used to it, and am quite able to manage it.
                    And now that I've decided not to take them I feel much calmer ... so it seems they were in a way worsening my anxiety.

                    I must loose some weight though, and I think that will help my all round health. Since B died and covid messed the world up, I have put on a stone. IT'S COMING OFF ! My clothes are too tight and I can't afford to buy new ones ...
                     
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                      My BP & Heart Rate went sky high when I went for a Cataract Op, they refused to do the Operation. I have a BP monitor, early morning It's around 130/75, later in the day it goes up, this is when I take my tablets.

                      Since I had Long Covid it has gone down slightly.

                      I have no chance of getting a GP appointment where I live. I do get a yearly letter from my surgery asking if I smoke & drink........this goes into the bin!
                       
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                        I can't understand places like that, it's stupid, what are you supposed to do if you're unwell ? I never get any trouble at all. I saw a GP the very same day. A few weeks ago I saw a nurse the very same day I phoned with a query also.
                         
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                          Good afternoon @Michael Hewett you are indeed fortunate here in the Medway Towns there are hardly any doctors to see its been 3 years since I have seen a doctor,in fact the pharmacists deal with most of the patients and whilst I am on the subject:heehee: we have one hospital with 800 beds for 345000 people and growing all the time:whistle:
                           
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                            Just as a Catch 22 note about the health service. A friend was going into hospital to have gallstones removed as they were causing infections. A fairly common op. He arrived on the day of the op, was given a bed and told to put a gown on. All straight forward - until thy told him he can't have the op because he has an infection! :doh: That's exactly why he needed the op in the first place. :wallbanging:
                             
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