MP Expensive Claims

The local councils are as bad if not worse. I know one Mayor personally who is a member of the Masons and routinely arranges another member to get work contracted out to them. In return he got an extension and indoor swimming pool done very very cheaply. They are all at it. I'm surprised that anyones surprised.

 

A friend was telling me that their run down neighbourhood got something like £50 million from the New Deal fund, two years on they've realised that most of the money is gone and much of it is unaccounted for.

Separately, my dad used to work for SureStart, managing a communal/educational allotment for kids from deprived neighbourhoods to come and learn about nature, and growing veg etc. He built and the couple of staff that worked for him made the whole thing a big success, with a steady stream of school kids, and pre-schoolers coming to grow stuff and learn stuff, and all gowing away happy. The time came for the new funding application. The committee said they'd applied to the EU etc and been rejected, so they had to let my dad and his two staff go. Oddly enough the two local directors seemed to get brand new cars as well as home improvements right about the time the funding would have came through if it had been approved. How odd. I'm sure it was all coincidence. Hmmm.

 

This makes interesting reading.Sorry it is a bit long though:flag::D

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1688879

 

Im not Suprised that there greedy , im suprised that there so stupid to think they could get away with it...

 

Power makes you believe you're invincible.

Be interesting to request council expenses under the Freedom of Information Act. Wonder if that will come next?

 

I think that this just confirms that the whole British idea of Parliament/Democracy in the UK need a complete overhaul.
Today some crazy historian was spouting on TV saying that its probably gone on for a hundred years and our MPs are probably no worse than any others in the world,.... so that makes it all OK.??????

I haven't voted for years due to the fact that there has not seemed to be anyone worthy of my vote, but now that we know that a good percentage are actually criminals its all making sense.

An election where nobody bothered to vote, voters on strike, in fact.
Would they know how to deal with that.

At least we do still have that one liberty, unlike some countries where its compulsory.
How scary is that?
Even MPs can abstain and do so regularly.

 

You can find out all about your local MP's expenses claims here:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

For that matter you can look up any MP's expenses from there.

 

Yeah. I go along with Pete. The only difference being is that I attend the Polling stations and spoil the Ballot paper. I just write "No suitable candidate". Then the politicos can't just write it off as "voter apathy".

 

Also proves that democracy doesn't work on a large scale. The meaning of democracy is rule of the people, but this system only really works in a small city state where ALL the population are involved in government at one time or another. At the most we have an democratic oligarchy - "elected" rule of the few.

Even more interesting is that since the "invention" of Communism by Marx and Engels, no one has come up with a new political system/philosophy.

 

One thing, that might come out of all of this, is that this just might be the straw that breaks the Camel's back, and the Silent Majority might speak up.

The 'surprising' thing to me is that they just don't seem to understand why people are getting upset. "I did nothing wrong, according to The Rules" just doesn't wash with me. Whenever some Tax loophole appears they're very quick to seal it up, so others who have "followed the rules" and gained unfairly, lose out (as they should) - Double Standards springs to mind. What really get to me is the bleating, "We all know that the rules are wrong and should be changed", well they've known that for a long time and done nothing about it.

I note that the fuss about the ex-Chairman of RBS's pension arrangements haven't been mentioned recently by any MP.

I hear, today, that the Federation of Taxpayers (or something like that) are considering starting Private Prosecutions against some MPs. I'm guessing they would succeed against those that have already re-paid 'over-claims' as that is tantamount to an admission of guilt of stealing, albeit, perhaps 'accidently'. No doubt they will still wriggle out though.

 

The policies of what you might think of as "extremist parties" ( the BNP being one of them I guess) seem to me more like the policies of the mainstream parties of the 1950s and 1960s before the wrecking of our manufacturing industries and national health services, mass immigration, gagging of free speech, teaching of sex to pre-pubescent children in schools etc., etc., improved our lifestyles over the last forty years. Indeed, in some ways, "extremist" policies are even more liberal than they were in the decades I mentioned as there is nothing in them about jailing consenting homosexual adults or confining unmarried mothers in lunatic asylums....although I doubt if the latter would be allowed to live a life a life of idleness and cigarettes at the expense of others under an "extremist government" as some do nowadays.
I would be the first to admit that there are unsavoury elements in the BNP, but not in so great a proportion as in some of the mainstream parties, so I shall be giving them my vote in the forthcoming elections in the hope that several will be elected as Euro MPs in order to give them a chance to show what they are really about, as it has been truly said "By their deeds ye shall know them." We've certainly got to know a lot about our serving MPs by their deeds lately, haven't we?

 

The BNP and other extremist political groups only keep quiet about their more unsavoury beliefs and aims because they don't want to alienate the majority of the population. Perhaps we do need to restrict immigration, but sending people back to where they come from? If so, I'll be first in the queue - first generation immigrant from Ireland! Great Britain has been built on wave after wave of immigration, most of whom integrated successfully. You'd be hard pushed to find an "pure-blood" Anglo-Saxon these days...

Sorry, but this sounds frightening familiar to what happened in Eurpoe after WW1, a backlash in favour of the far right. Swap Jews for Immigrants and you'd hardly notice the difference.

But then Mussolini did make the trains run on time, didn't he?

 

I saw a documentary on telly a while back that said that Anglo-Saxons weren't the original Brits anyway. Apparently, and rather 'surprisingly', it was a group of people called the Britons, something like 6000 years ago.

 

Oh yes, and those of you with "son" in your surname best start packing your carpet bags. Your ancestors came from Scandinavia, you Vikings, you!

 

My maiden name ended in "son", and quite like the idea of having Viking blood in me, but thats from my Paternal ascendants, it would have to be Ireland if I looked to my Mothers forebears.


Which to choose?..............hmmm toughie. Both as good as the other.

And anyone who votes for the BNP needs their head examined. Fascist parties are "liberal"? Are you being serious? Their lists of "undeserving" types grow with time. Eventually, they will come to your name on the list.