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  1. HarryS

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    Nforst if you search around on Google , I am sure you will find a how to fix post on the Scenic cable . If I was searching for a new car , with a little one , I would definitely be looking at 4 door . Don't cross off Focus and its variants , I have had quite a few Fords in my driving life , they are very reliable . I drive a C-Max now and love it !
     
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    Sorry I haven't got to this thread sooner - saw it while on mobile, but thought it best to be at a keyboard to reply.

    Right, first things first. Your '05 Scenic - what is the action plan here, longer term? Are you looking to stay in cars that are around the £1500 or so mark, or do you plan at some point to change to something much newer?

    The airbag light could very well be the cable under the seat - very common, and not just on Renault to be fair. As others have said, this is very much a DIY fix - shove the seat back as far as you can, look under the seat (I find kneeling outside the car is best) and have a look under the seat. You will almost certainly see a white plastic plug and socket, which may or may not be connected to each other. If they aren't, you have found your fault - plug one into the other and you should be good. If they are, unplug, check for corrosion etc and plug back in.

    Be aware that you might need to have the car plugged in and have the fault codes cleared as it may not clear on its own and will still have the light showing on the dash.

    Oil leak - how bad and from where?

    Clutch slip - all the time? Only under heavy load? How high is the bite point on the pedal, and how stiff is the cable?

    How many miles has the car done, and are you expecting any other work to be needed soon (discs, pads, cambelt, water-pump etc)?

    Scratches and dents are pretty much par for the course, and can't really be part of your decision here.
     
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    I've bought Ford since 1976, with the exception of one Vauxhall, yuck, and found them very reliable.
    Gotta say though for £1500, you could get any load of rubbish, its a bit of a lottery once a motor gets that old, a lot depends on previous owners and how they have been maintained.
    You do get a lot of DIY ers poking around on the older ones.
     
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      My rule of thumb is "less than a grand". The thing is, if you are going to buy a used car, which lets face it is all many of us can afford, you are almost always buying someone else's problems. People tend not to part with a car they are really happy with.

      So, whether you pay £500 or £5000 for a used car, you're going to be spending a few hundred more in the first year putting it right. The amount you spend to make it good depends on many factors, and the risk of the gamble also depends on various things. The initial 'making good' cost will usually (but not always) be fairly obvious with a test drive. If everything is great but the brakes feel a bit horrid, or the exhaust is blowing, probably next to nowt. If its misfiring and popping and banging, and full of knocks and rattles, then its probably fit for the scrappy (I've test drove a few of those :) ).

      The 'keeping good' cost is more a matter of a bit of research. Take my old Gothilda for example. £650 she cost me. She's clocked up over 250,000 miles in her 17 years of life, and she pulled a caravan around for a fair few of those miles. Sounds like a disaster yes? A bit of research reveals that these are rock solid, reliable motors. Something borne out by my experience of two of them. Both just keep on going and going with very little maintenance. Contrast that to, say, my Laguna. That one just kept costing and costing. It just takes a bit of research. That's why I would lean towards German makes like BMW and Audi, and even my old Volvo who despite being born and bred in Gothenburg, Sweden, is actually full of parts build by Bosch and VW in Germany:) But, still, research is the way to go, choose a few cars that seem to fit the bill, and then hunt them down. The worst possible thing to do is to walk into a used car place and start browsing.
       
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      If buying something such as a BMW you should check insurance costs as well. :blue thumb:
       
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      Just to say that I used to have a Honda Jazz and it is still the best car I have owned.
       
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      What is it about Renault's that winds everyone up! I currently own a Clio....my third and have owned a Megane as well, no problems with any of them, so they can't all be bad!

      Sorry to muscle in on your thread nFrost but I'm also car hunting and have been out and about today looking at various makes, I will not be having another Renault because it now doesn't suit me because of health issues. An automatic is on the cards but I'm not keen.
       
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      Well I have had several Nissan Primeras over the years and found them all to be excellent value for money, really reliable, economic to drive, comfy, always had hatchbacks so 4 doors.. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-cars/nissan/primera

      I have now gone to a Mini Clubman estate and I really love it..!! :yay:
       
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      It's not Renault as such @Sheal, it is French cars full stop - or at least it is for me. To be fair, I haven't owned one now for at least a decade, so they might be considerably better than they were, but their reputation goes before them. Sad in many respects, as they do make some pretty looking cars. The Peugeot RCZ being a case in point:

      RCZ.jpg
      Looks very similar to the Audi TT, which has been hugely successful. Sadly, it didn't take all that long after the Peugeot's release before it was being known as the 'Aldi TT'' :snork:

      Cars like the last two generations of Laguna also did nothing for the image of French cars - jam-packed with gizmos and computers to make them look incredible beside some of the competition on the forecourt, but sadly without the budget or the design skill to back it up; the net result was cars with woefully unreliable electronics that cost arms and legs to put right.

      When it was cars like the Renault 5 - no problem; they were simple, looked reasonably good and were generally as reliable as the next one; as soon as they tried to get clever, at the same time as budgets were being squeezed......
       
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        Avoid it like the plague! Horrendous running costs beckon.............

        I agree. Old school technology at your price range.

        My thoughts are if you have £1500 to spend then maybe a grand spent on the Reno to keep it going a year or two makes more sense. Kia's with four or five years warranty left should be easier to come by in a year or two.
        Better the devil you know and all that.

        Sums it up in one. Too many piles of poo on the market at that money.
        If you do go out and buy my biggest tip is avoid diesel unless you're doing lots of motorway miles.
        You could look to Golfs and Skoda Octavias.
         
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          Yes. it is a 'pretty' car FC. :) Don't you think though that when it comes down to the nitty gritty, it has to be down to personal choice and not necessarily the mechanics of a specific make. Many modern cars look the same because of aero-dynamics, they all have very similar things going on underneath the bonnet and if any one of us gets lumbered with a dodgy car I don't necessarily think it's down to the make but how it was put together on the production line, like anything else there can be manufacturing faults with just one car out of another hundred that were produced identically at the same time - and off the same 'belt'. It's a case of pot luck!
           
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          Makes more sense to me also.
           
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            That was where my thinking was going - unless the Renault has done galactic miles, it may well be best to repair it and get another year or two out of it, by which time the option of something newer might be better (as @longk rightly points out, the likes of Kia's still in warranty at 5 years old will become a lot more common by then)
             
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              You'll love it, I wouldn't go back to manual now.
               
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              • pete

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                Must admit, although my last car had 6 gears it was up to me when I changed up and down.
                This new one I have keeps telling me when to change up, its driving me round the bend.

                Perhaps its time I got an automatic.
                 
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