NEW REUSE-RECYCLING OF WASTE IDEAS?

Hi ALL, here is the flood risk help line phone number as they say we are about to get some very heavy rainfall, it's 0845 9881188.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.

 

Hi ALL, today the 23-1-2008 we had our waste collected, using the New collection system in GREENwich. Which is now our GREEN BIN is used for FOOD and GARDEN WASTE ONLY, which they are going to collect WEEKLY, and our BLUE TOP BIN can take a mix of CANs, CARDBOARD, GLASS, PLASTIC, and PAPER and CORRUGATED CARDBOARD too, all in one go, which will be collected WEEKLY, and if we have LEFT-OVERs like POLYSTYRENE, or DOG or CAT EXCREMENT, SANITARY TOWELs and INCONTINENCE PADs, COLD COAL and WOOD EMBERS, they must be all put in a SEALED BAG, any VACUUM CLEANER WASTE, CIGARETTE ENDs, COTTON WOOL PADs and BUDs and MAKE-UP WIPEs, COAT HANGERS, and BROKEN CROCKERY, which must be wrapped to avoid any injury to the dustman mainly, all these we are told to put in BLACK PLASTIC SACKs to be collected FORTNIGHTLY from now on. WHY! Why should we wait two weeks for it to be collected, when it could be all collected on the same day, and in another WHEELIE BIN say with a RED TOP. Plus we are being asked to pay for BAGs, GARDEN SACKs, CADDY LINERs when we as council tax payer already pay for every thing. This I pointed out to all the people who were present at our local COLDHARBOUR Estate NEIGHBOURHOOD PANEL MEETING, which had a man frow GREENWICH COUNCIL there talking about GREENWICH's New way of collecting our waste, and the ways they are going to RECYCLE and REUSE it to help to REDUCE it going to landfill sites, with the help of us all doing our bit. They say the money making side of things it's to improve their services for us, IN WHAT WAY! We have just paid for a New Council Materials Recycling Facility which Automatically sorts the Paper, Cans and Bottles and packs them into bales. yet we are being asked to seprate most things WHY! even though I don't mind doing it if it helps, but come on atleast supply us with the things we need, without us having to pay for it, even though some people don't mind doing that too, but that's their choice when they are being told we must all buy things to help the Council keep where we live looking clean and tidy, and free from Waste. If our Greenwich Council wants to show the best way to deal with its waste, its got to do more for us, and in return I'm sure we will all DO OUR BIT, like I am, in my own way as my website will show, and in some of my ideas I have put forward, which I believe are a bit outside the box ways of thinking. Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts. I hope you all have a Happy New Year 2008, and may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.

[ 26. January 2008, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: J.R.P. ]

 

Jrp, your post is swirling round my head. I dont think I can remember all this, I will be spending hours sorting all this recyling stuff. We do have a better system.

black top bin for rubbish.

green top bin for paper related stuff.

brown top bin for garden rubbish.

yellow top bin for glass related stuff.

grey top bin for tins.

black top bin is collected once a week.

The other bins are collected fortnightly.

Most of my garden rubbish I compost it.

 

I used to recylcle everything! But sorry mate, you, single handed, have turned me off recycling forever. I've even lost the will to read this post again. Leucojum

 

Leuc. I thought I was the only one. :D :D

 

Even for me that's a tall order!
:eek: Helen.xxx.

 

Gosh we only have a black bin for household rubbish every Tue a green bin garden refuse only wich has now started again so one tue black bin next green.

Every Friday mornin a green box for glass .bottles plastics and papers .

We have to take anything else and cardboard to our local skip.

 

The refuse tips in Leicester watch you like hawks when you take in rubbish. We are not allowed to tip bags of rubbish in one bin but sort them out ourselves and put them in various bins.It is a waste of time going to the tip and also paying more council tax when we have to sort out our own rubbish.
I still cant get my head round 'JRP' post

 

Fancy. Join the club. :D

 

Hi ALL, I'm sorry if you can't get your head round my post, the main points I'm trying to make are, Yes it's a new system which is great, but WHY use black bags, when they could have given us another bin, say with a red top to put them in, instead of us having to put the black bags down by the side of our two other bins until they are collected fortnightly, making the area where we live look like a dump. When we have three new waste collecting lorries which did come round on the 23-1-2008, 1 at 6am, another at about 10am, and anther one at about 2pm, all on the same day. The point I'm trying to make is if they can do it one week, on one day, then why can they do it like that every week. If you would like to visit the Council website which cover everything I've been talking about in the way of info it's. Home Page is ok,www.greenwich.gov.uk/Greenwhich/YourEnvironment/RubbishRecycling/Recy... John.J.R.P.

[ 27. January 2008, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: J.R.P. ]

 

J.R.P. Have you tried voting for a different council. :D

 

Hi ALL, I say what we need is a WASTE REVOLUTION in the UK, to take place now, because I believe we need to think and handle all our waste as a asset, and at no time should it go to landfill sites. I'm sure every thing we produce can be reused again in one way or another, but I believe because there is so much money involved which comes from our Council tax or Rents, which can be spent by people who are not really accountable for their actions on behalf of the people who actually pay the BILL, which is most of us at the end of the day, Governed by just a few people who all have their own ideas on how to deal with our waste PROBLEMs, with a end result of some Councils are doing a good job, and some are not, even our own Greenwich Council has started a New collection Service, but they are leaving it to the people to sort it out as time goes on, rather than having every thing in place before they started, for example not having enough blue top wheelie bins, or bin liners.
With this in mind I'm now in the position of being The Voice of our Coldharbour Estate, SE9, C.T.R.A. Waste and Recycling Team, which I intend to use, to help REDUCE as much of our waste as I can going to our landfill sites, with the help of others living on our estate, and with the backing of our Greenwich Council I know we can make a BIG difference, simply done by us all working together to help SOLVE any PROBLEMs, that's not going to go away over night, but with some of my outside the box ideas I will be putting forward to every one, we could change the way we do things over night, if used.
May be you want to be a voice for your estate too, and join me in my REVOLUTIONARY thoughts.
For example below is a copy of a C.T.R.A. Coldharbour, Tenants, Residents, Association, meeting paper I gave to our Greenwich Council representatives, to help me know more in the way of 20 questions. What I want at the end of the day is a service that's good value for money, and it deals with our waste as a asset not to be thrown away, but REUSED, I have so many ideas on how to make this come about, but only time will tell if I've been wasting my time or not, so I invite every one to watch this space, as you might find it of interest to you, as I try to change lots of things in my own way, with the help of others, now that I'm in the SYSTEM.
Power to the people who are doing their bit, in their own way all over the world to save our planet for future generations to come.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.

C.T.R.A. meeting held on the 27th February 2008, is where people living on our Coldharbour Estate SE9 can have their say, and it will be acted upon in the future.
Here are some questions I would like answers to in regards to our New waste collection service started on Wednesday 21st of January 2008.
(1) Will our Greenwich Council Tax be going up tp pay for it?
(2) How much does it cost to deal with one GREEN TOP WHEELIE BIN?
(3) How much does it cost to deal with one BlUE TOP WHEELIE BIN?
(4) How much does it cost to deal with one Black Bag?
(5) How much does it cost to deal with one DAYs WASTE?
(6) How much does it cost to deal with one WEEKs WASTE?
(7) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their WASTE collected?
(8) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their STREETs free from rubbish?
(9) How much does it cost each person Living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their LARGE waste collected?
(10) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their CONTAMINATED Wheelie bin dealt with?
(11) How much waste does our Coldharbour Estate produce over all?
(12) How much waste has been put into the GREEN TOP BINs and collected?
(13) How much waste has been put into the BLUE TOP BINs and collected?
(14) How much waste has been put into the BLACK BAGs and collected?
(15) How much waste has been put into the wrong PLASTIC CONTAINERs and collected?
(16) How much of our waste goes to landfill sites?
(17) How much of our waste gets REUSED?
(18) How much of our waste gets RECYCLED?
(19) How much would it cost to supply each person who has a WHEELIE BIN, with a Large Clear Bin LINER?
(20) How much would it cost to have our own Coldharbour Recycling Bank?
These are just some of the questions I will be asking The Greenwich Council waste representatives to night.

Which did turn out to be a very good presentation by our Greenwich Council Waste Service People, which I'm sure you could get arranged to where you live if you try.
Did you know if you are a home owner living in Greenwich you are charged �£4 a item to have your bulk waste taken away, but if you are a Council Tenant you are not charged, This to me is DISCRIMINATION between peoples waste, and I've accused Greenwich Council and others of it. and I've said I want this to stop straight away or there's going to be a Big PROBLEM in the future, as we own our own house like so many others do, and we pay our Council Tax to cover this already, so WHY should we pay more to have the same type of waste removed?
These are some more of my ideas I'm putting forward.
We must do away with using Black Bags to help prevent people CONTAMINATATING their waste before it goes into the back of the waste collecting lorry.
We must have FREE BIN LINERS, and BAGs.
We must have enough Wheelie Bins for what we throw away.
We must have Free bulk household waste collection.
We must have all our wheelie bins made from clear recycled plastic.
We must have one way of dealing with our waste, to cover the whole of the UK.
We must all try to do our bit in a positive way to reuse and recycle our waste starting from a early age.
We must get our waste PROBLEMs sorted out as soon as possible, otherwise we are going to have a BIG PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE. John.J.R.P.

 

could you put more paragraphs into your posts, and make them easier to read? (sorry, but i for one do not read your posts as they are too hard on these poor old eyes)

 

Hi ALL, our GREENWICH COUNCIL Waste Management is RUBBISH at dealing with our rubbish, I say this after trying to get our waste delt with in a posative way, to help reduce it going to landfill sites from our Coldharbour Estate SE9, done by trying to make sure every one has a Blue Top Wheelie Bin to use, to help recycle more, and to help reduce the risk of CONTAMINATION, which does happen if some people have only a Green Top Wheelie Bin to use.
I believe this could have all been sorted out years ago, if the Council had said to every one living in a Council House or their own homes, that we must all have a Green Top Wheelie bin supplied by the Council, to use for just food and Garden waste only, with some paper in them for food to be wrapped up in, and they should have also said that we must all have a Blue Top Wheelie bin supplied by the Council to, for what ever else can be reused or recycled, and then maybe adding another one later to cover what ever else was left.
But no they decided to start a New collection service this year, already knowing they would not be able to cope with what should have been already in place, which was Blue Top Wheelie Bins, and clear recycling bags, and a nappy service as promise, and a Management Team of people who actually new what to do.
I have spoken to a lot of our dustmen and people living on our estate, and they say the Greenwich Council Waste Management have not got a clue, they sit in their offices giving out work to be done by each man, not knowing about the job them selves, which of course they will claim is not the case, and saying we will sort things in the future.
For example when someone has taken the time to phone in to tell them they want a Blue Top Wheelie bin to use for example, they get told, they will get one A S P, which could take nearly a year going by some of the people I've spoken to, as each one is dealt with as they are entered down on the list to be ordered. So what happens is someone might want one in Eltham, someone might want one in Woolwich, someone might want one Greenwich, Someone might want one in New Eltham, then someone might want one in Lewisham, and so on, what then happens is a vehicle then travels from one house to another in that order until each one is delivered, that's why its's taking so long, instead of doing a bulk delievery when they have enough to fill one lorry brought in from Germany, to cover a lot more people in one go, who are living in a certain area, and then move on to the next one until we all have our bins to use as a way of life, instead of some Councils supplying boxes,bags,sacks which all have to be picked up at some time with what ever weight they have inside them, where as if we all had the same type of wheelie bin no matter where we lived, this I believe would cut down on our dustmen being injured trying to do their job, oked by someone who's working in a office who has more than likely never done the same job them selves.
Once upon time the dust men worked a job and knock system, and made sure that all our rubbish was removed, as they were seen to be doing a good job if no one complained. But now they have to work certain hours to make the management system work, which is clearly coursing lots of PROBLEMS as they believe the management have not got a clue in the best way to run such an important service. For example did you know if someone wants to change their large wheelie bin for a smaller one, their old wheelie bin is destroyed because it's been used before, and they would rather buy a brand new one instead of giving it to someone else to use, to help keep down cost.
Did you know for years the Greenwich Council accounts department has not been charging some businesses, and schools for example for collecting their rubbish, which they should have, but when they tell the people that they must start to pay now, most of them don't, and they change to a private contractor to do the same job for some reason. So even more money has been missmanaged for years, and no one will be held accountable for it, as it's only our money they are manageing which makes no profit, even though they get everything for free paid for in one way or another by us. I have heard that they are now starting to paint some Green Top Wheelie Bin lids Black to use, I wonder if this is to put the black sacks in to replace us leaving the black sacks out, which then have to be picked up each time not knowing what's in them. Apart from that we are still waiting for about 100 Blue Top Wheelie Bins to cover our estate, which is getting on for three months now since they were ordered by me and others to help solve our recycling PROBLEM. I was told that Bexley waste management has got a system where their peoples waste day is collected with in half an hour of each other, not taking all day like ours, and more when contractor lorrys come round to pick up what the dustmen wont take, because it's been contaminated in some way, which is when people usually put stuff in either bins in black bags, instead of waiting until the righ day for them to be collected, which is once a fortnight where we live in Greenwich at the moment.
I can't wait until the next public meeting of Councillors and MPs, and Waste Management, and C.T.R.A. members to talk about things that concern us in one way or another.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.

 

^ i guess thats a no.