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    It looks good nFrost but the layout of the slab base still concerns me. They will move in time and distort the greenhouse particularly if you've bolted it down. The glass will pop out and possibly break.
     
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      Nitpicking I know, sorry, but I would have preferred to see one roof vent each side (as a minimum, but that would probably have been enough for a 3-bay greenhouse)
       
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        I know I know, but I'm a bit time poor unfortunately so had to take a few shortcuts. I'm planning on putting some spacers in between all of the slabs to add some stability. If I had the time it would be a proper concrete base with bricks and the full shabang! haha

        It didn't come with any so I was going to ask the question on here - can I make some?
         
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          Small world, the lady that runs (may be her son now) Jacks Glass is my dad's cousin! My good friends lived next door to there too, when we were at Uni in Hull.
          Great work nfrost, jealous that you have a greenhouse.
           
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            Hmmm ... not come across a DIY solution to that.

            The Roof vents that I have come across have a top frame with a bead along the full length, that pushes into a recessed slot in the ridge frame member and as both the bead and slot are circular, in cross section, that forms the hinge. I suspect that this is both easy to manufacture and also forms a strong "hinge" (compared to bolting one one) in windy weather.

            Not easy to retro fit even with correct parts - I think that @JWK had a go at increasing the number of vents in his greenhouse a year or two back. Can't remember the upshot, either the retrofit was impossible or the vents he had available were not compatible.
             
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            I suppose it depends on what make/model of greenhouse. As Kristen said I have retrofitted some to mine. Both my greenhouses are old (made in the 1970s), they are both made by Crittall and look very similar but the vents are not interchangeable as the aluminium profiles are subtly different. I got a couple of extra vents off Freecycle but they only fit my smaller greenhouse. The good thing is the roof vents are very simple to fit, they only take around five minutes to remove a glass pane, the new vent just slides along the roof profile from the end, then a couple of bolts to fit the fit the bar with the stay clip.

            It's even easier to fit side vents so re-arranged mine so I get a good funnel effect when it's hot so all the hot goes out of the roof vent.

            Fitting auto-openers is another subject, I've spent hours replacing mine when they eventually break, there seems to be no standard fitting so my roof vents have lots of extra holes where I've taken them off and put up different ones over the years.
             
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              I can't get the stay-clips on mine "locked" in place, from inside (or not that I ahve found a way to do :sad:) so my vents slide sideways (moreso in summer as I don't close them, but only lower them to bottom hole, so if they wander sideways a bit, each day, I don't notice until they are missing the opening by about half!!). Its something I'd really like to get solved as I find it annoying, and the shorter members of the family can't reach up to nudge them back, so problem if I am away.

              Mate of mine said the instructions on his were to bring the piston-parts in for the winter. Might prolong their life??
               
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              I can't visualise what you two are describing, I thought I could just do a hinge-and-prop job on it. Sorry to be a pain!
               
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              [​IMG]

              In the cut-away diagram, bottom right, the bit above the "208 top rail with "I" gasket" is aC shaped extrusion, in the right, into which the O-shaped bead attached to the vent slides (and acts as the pivoting mechanism for the hinge)

              Also diagram on [top left of] page 25 of 28 here:
              http://issuu.com/greenhousepeople/docs/6he_complete_hq
               
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                Thanks, a bit beyond my skills by the look of it and no idea what the make is either.

                This evening I've been trying to dig this out with a border spade and handsaw, I'll get there eventually!

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                I also turned my coldframe that I made out of a bedframe into my work area in the greenhouse.

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                  The willow tree is out, 3 bags of gravel chucked in filled and seeded:

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                  I've also edged one side of the lawn, the other side is going to be more tricky as I need to ADD more lawn instead trimming away what's there:

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                    I bet that stump weighs a bit nFrost?
                     
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                      In case you have not tried it:

                      Lift the turf at the edge. Move it outwards a bit, relay (putting some soil under to level it etc).

                      Fill in the new "trench" gap with soil, and seed.

                      Best to plonk the moved-turf a bit further out than needed and, next Spring, after the roots have knitted-in, cut a nice clean fresh edge.
                       
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                        Yeah, just a bit. Not sure how I'm going to get rid of it. Need a chainsaw! I'm glad it's gone now but I wish we could've kept the tree.

                        Thanks for that Kristen, I was thinking I'd have to build the edge up and then seed it but couldn't see how it would keeps it's shape. Will I need to water the sods until they 'bind' with the soil underneath?
                         
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                          Unlikely if you do it this time of the year, but it wouldn't hurt, particularly if we hit a dry patch :)

                          If they are rock hard then giving them a good soaking before you lift them will make that job easier, and condition them better for getting re-established :)
                           
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