North facing fence - What to plant to cover it?

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  1. machtucker

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    Oh no, sorry to hear this. In what way?
     
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    Have to disagree. Having seen it done with Gloire de Marengo it formed a beautiful, flat sheet of foliage that just required occasional tucking in or snipping to control it. I grow both GdeM and Sulphur Heart to cover 1000l water butts and neither of them is over-vigorous even though the soil is good and they're in shade.
     
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      I've also had S. Heart on a screen and have G. de M on a fence where I have access to it from both sides, so maintenance is easy enough. H. helix is a bit more vigorous though. If there was a good gap between the fence and trellis so that you could trim from both sides, it would be ok, but I didn't think that was what was being suggested. I thought the fence was a boundary with a neighbouring garden, and the trellis was just being attached to it - unless I've completely misunderstood, which is quite possible!

      A garden near me has H. helix as their basic boundary on the fence and they just trim it as you would with a hedge, so it's fine. :smile:
       
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        I was planning exactly as you suggest. It seems like to ensure that it doesn't go through I could attach a water breathable membrane over the fence as once the Ivy has grown you will not be able to see the fence anyway. I will look into it.
         
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          Ivy marks a wall when you try and remove it. It also damages the mortar. Any small holes in a fence or shed roof it will find its way through. Yes you can cut it like a hedge but the main trunks are becoming thicker and thicker every year hidden by the foliage and eventually your fence will collapse. Disgusting stuff.
           
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          Shouldn't there be an 'in my opinion' in there somewhere? I would quite agree with you concerning the species Hedera helix but have simply never found the cultivars that I proposed to be a problem.
           
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          Hmm yes, hearing things like this makes me a little cautious. The last thing I want to do is annoy my neighbours at the back. They recently removed some Bamboo that was running into my garden so I know what it's like having an invasion
           
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          I quite like the look of the Hedera Sulphur Heart so maybe I’ll go with that. I will have to think about it. Shame a Jasmine won’t go there as I like that.
           
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          I completely agree that ivy leaves marks when removed and eagerly seeks out the tiniest gaps but it doesn't damage mortar unless the mortar is in a poor shape to begin with.

          This is mentioned on the rhs website under frequently asked question, Does ivy damage buildings?

          Ivy on buildings and fences / RHS


          I must admit I'm fond of ivy which is why I wanted to dispell a myth, it was amazing the amount of bees, and the sound of them, when the ivy flowers were out in our local woods recently. I wouldn't want it growing up a fence though.
           
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            I've always found G de M a well behaved plant. I've used the hard green wire netting to grow it up in my current garden to camouflage my oil tank.
            I have plenty of common Ivy too and agree with @Thevictorian that the flowers are very attractive to bees and other insect life. Not always suitable in some instances tho.
             
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