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Oh dear! My poor rose!

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    20170704_141034.jpg Ok I'm 'fessing up....I have a...or should say... had a beautiful Blue Moon rose that has been outside the front of my house for more than 15 years. (The glorious Arthur Bell is growing next to it). Unfortunatley they do get a bit neglected:sorry:.
    To all you wonderful experts...is it worth saving or shall I start again? ( I don't have a tool to cut back the big dead bits, maybe I need to go shopping!):huh:20170704_141034.jpg20170704_141034.jpg
     
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    @wiseowl is the real expert as he worked with Roses for a long time. I am sure he will be able to advise you @Loopylupin

    Blue Moon is a beautiful rose and a lovely scent, I would hate to lose it but as I say Woo will know.. :thumbsup: :SUNsmile:
     
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      Good evening @Loopylupin my friend A Rose is always worth saving,what concerns me is that they are planted together in such a small area and are obviously competing for everything a Rose needs,with the greatest of respect the trellis is far to narrow for one Rose let alone two Roses if you could possibly move one of them (Arthur Bell)in their dormant period(November )if it were my Rose,for now I would prune your Rose by two thirds down to a a level height.:smile:
       
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        @wiseowl thank you, the roses were in situ when we moved to the house in 2002 and all I have done is prune them and occaisionally water and feed them. They do suffer with black spot too!
        I'm afraid I can't move my Arthur Bell, it is right by the front door and whenever I go in and out I inhale deeply, the flowers have the most beautiful perfume (it has a few 2nd flowers about to open) it is to die for. So I will remove the Bluemoon, as it is in such a sorry state, and find a place for it in the back garden and nurture it back to health (if that is possible!)
        I think I may have replaced the original trellis a few years ago and hadn't even thought about the size of it, so point taken and please, any advice is greatly received without offence taken.
         
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          Good morning @Loopylupin my friend no worries,although Blue Moon is very prone to blackspot in fact they have now bred a Rose named Twice in a Blue Moon,which is resistant to Black spot and you wouldn't notice any difference in the colours,Roses are a lot tougher than we think,please remove all the leaves with black spot on them and discard them/burn them (not on the compost heap),and the ones around the base of the roses as that's where the spores will lay over next winter if they are not removed,Your Roses will be OK just spend 10 minutes each day with some TLC and they will reward you in spades for many years,good luck and if you have any more questions we are always here to give advice and friendship,enjoy your day;)
           
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            Oh my have they Woo.. I really like my friends blue moon but as you say blackspot prone, but I am very interested in the new resistant one.. Thank you :thumbsup: :SUNsmile:
             
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              Exhibition name: Blue Moon
              Bred by Mathias Tantau, Jr. (1912 - 2006) (Germany, 1964).
              Hybrid Tea.
              Lavender. Strong, opinions vary fragrance. 40 petals. Average diameter 4". Large, double (17-25 petals), classic hybrid tea, exhibition bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Long, pointed buds.
              Medium, upright.
              Height of 2' to 5' (60 to 150 cm). Width of 2' (60 cm).
              Can be used for cut flower, exhibition or garden. Hardy. prefers warmer sites. Spring Pruning: Remove old canes and dead or diseased wood and cut back canes that cross. In warmer climates, cut back the remaining canes by about one-third. In colder areas, you'll probably find you'll have to prune a little more than that. Requires spring freeze protection (see glossary - Spring freeze protection) . Can be grown in the ground or in a container (container requires winter protection).
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              Mauve or mauve blend Hybrid Tea.
              Bred by Hans J├╝rgen Evers (Germany, before 2004).
              Introduced in Germany by Rosen-Tantau/Tantau Roses in 2004 as 'Twice in a Blue Moon'.
              Hybrid Tea.
              Mauve or purple blend. Strong fragrance.
              Height of 35" (90 cm).


              A newer version of the ever popular "Blue Moon". Very similar in appearance but stronger, easier to grow and more disease resistant. The colour is the same, but the whole bush looks stronger and healthier. Undoubtedly our best selling 'Blue Rose'. Like the old one the perfume is superb. Bred by Tantau in Germany who have bred many hundreds of very beautiful roses over the years. Highly recommended.

              AWARDS: Glasgow People's Choice 2006. Glasgow Tollcross Fragrance Award 2006. Monza Silver Medal 2004.


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                Arrrgh :thud: I am defo going to get one now you know, :biggrin: I can almost smell it through the pic.. Thanks Woo..
                 
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                  Should you always cut off all leaves with blackspot? I have some old roses with some affected leaves - but a new rose this year (bare rooted from The Range) has blackspot on every leaf.And 3 flowers. Do you the prune back stems now or wait until autumn to prune?
                   
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                    Me too! It is stunning.:spinning:
                     
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                      Good morning @JJ28 my friend my profound apologies for not answering your question sooner:smile:

                      Your Rose to you may look odd without leaves but but it will be OK.
                      1.Yes you should always remove the leaves with Black spot on.
                      2.Prune canes back when the Rose is in its dormant state ,I would advise February/March less chance of frost damage to the new pruning cuts.

                      Really hopes that this answer helps you but if you have anymore questions please don't hesitate to ask,their are many members/friends here at GC who's gardening knowledge covering all plants and everything garden related is second to none,enjoy your day:smile:
                       
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                        Thank you Wise Old Owl. I will have a bald rose as of tomorrow. I do do the pruning in the spring as a rule so will leave (un)well alone until then. Poor Mina rose....bought to mark birth of my granddaughter Minna. Should I feed the stalks or just water?
                         
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                          image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg Hi help needed please I know very little about roses can theses be saved? They have black spot and look dead at the bottom any advise would be gratefully received
                           

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