Onion Growing 2024

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  1. JWK

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    Are these on an overwintered crop? If so I'd write them off and not grow alliums in that bed for a few years.
     
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    The beets were yes, but the onions got them in the peak of summer. Just bad luck?
     
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      Try to attract a robin, disturb a patch of soil and leave a fork there too. Repeat daily.A few dried mealworms left as 'bait'......
       
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        Most of my onions have started growing but the Ishikura have not yet. Probably old seed I guess. I may sow some more of the white Lisbon to compensate
         
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          Can I interrupt for some advice please...

          I've only grown onions from seed (not very successfully either), but am tempted to order some onion sets to try this year - they would have an entire bed at the back of the garden exclusively to themselves (well, except any volunteer potatoes :heehee:) and that bed gets early sun and dappled shade thereafter - does this sound suitable? Is it just a case of lobbing them with some chicken manure and letting them get on with it bar watering occasionally?
           
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          Sets are easier than growing from seed, and unless the site is in total shade they should be reasonable, although onions do like a sunny spot really.

          I usually plant them about 9ins apart, just below the surface, in late march or early april depending on the weather, I sometimes give them a sprinkling of growmore in June on a wet day, if not water it in.

          I only grow for the kitchen so dont mess around too much, probably the worst thing is not letting the weeds get a hold as they dont need the competition and will suffer if they get overgrown.

          If you get any spuds coming up I'd whip them out, they will out compete the onions.
           
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            Thanks - they will get sun for quite a chunk of the day (it is only just going shady down that end of the garden now) so should be OK I think; courgettes went bananas there a couple of years back.
             
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              pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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              Courgettes went bananas.:roflol: must admit I prefer bananas.:smile:
               
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                I tend to grow mostly red onions and found that sets for reds tended to bolt, even the heat treatment didn't stop that. I used to grow sets and still grow shallots from sets, but prefer the wider choice of growing onions from seed. They do seem hungry plants and agree Pete about giving them a boost mid season.
                 
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                  So do I :biggrin:

                  I asked the question earlier, should we grow some - Mrs C responded that she is the only one in the house that eats them, and last time round we had far too much :heehee:

                  I'm operating on the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) principle this year, at least as much as I can. Potatoes in the barrels near the house, onions up the back, and tomatoes in the greenhouse, with maybe a couple of chilli plants. Everything else is going to be flowers and most of that will be bulbs/perennials
                   
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                    The pack I am getting is mixed yellow and red (exact varieties not specified), so goodness knows how I get on. I didn't get a single onion in '22 when I had tons of seedlings, but I suspect that was mostly down to the dogs busting through the netting to get through there. We have plans to build a second fence (not quite as high or elaborate as the one mid-garden) just to protect the veg area. I can but try I suppose.

                    How frequent should they be watered, bearing in mind I am in the barren SW of London?
                     
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                    This is really strange, as I moved on from sets some years ago due to bolting and started growing from seed, being I dont want too many these days and some lack of interest on my part, too many plants to cope with, I went back to sets about 5 yrs ago and red barron as usual.
                    I find I dont get them bolting now like they did a few years ago.
                    I often think differing weather conditions are behind bolting, especially wet summers.

                    Its been pretty dry the last few years and @Fat Controller I never water mine, or only very rarely, if I do its a really deep soaking by laying the hose on the ground and just letting it run out, no overhead spraying.
                     
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                      Maybe that is where I went wrong last year then, as I was watering them in a similar fashion to flowers (every couple of days, overhead or sprinkler). Cheers, I will bear it in mind.
                       
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                      Just saying dont water too frequently, but when you do, flood it.
                      probably best advise for most things, but onions are not big leafy plants like courgettes or runner beans that soak up water like a sponge.
                       
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                        From my experience onions prefer drier conditions, for sets I water them to begin with until they put their roots down (around a month) then leave them be unless we have drought conditions
                         
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