Operation Stack

I see david cameron, (small d and small c), is talking tough.
More chicken wire, and sniffer dogs.

They are probably trembling in their makeshift shelters wondering what to do next.

 

Railings, electrified!!!!!

 

They'll just change there aftershave

 

A friend sent me this link, which I found quite interesting...

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7909630

(Sorry, but as a foreign migrant myself, I am maybe a little sensitive on this subject)

 

And the ones who don't qualify?

 

Exactly, if they qualify to get into the UK, why are they buggering about at Calais jumping on lorries or trains.

Surely they could apply to enter in a legal manner.

I know you have plenty of room @shiney , I've seen your back garden

 

Sorry but as far as I'm concerned that point of view is as one sided as all the others.
Statistics mean nothing, you can bend them to suit any argument, just look at our elections.

Anyway, the amount of these people taken in should actually be set by land area rather than GDP.

And looking at it as a wider picture, when will it all end, or are large parts of the world destined to contain no people, while those that "were" doing well end up housing the rest of the world.

 

Totally agree!! It has been suggested that "Asylum" should be scrapped!!

 

Call me a bleeding heart liberal if you want but here's my two pennurth;

• Imagine being (for example) a Somalian parent. Would you not scrape together every last penny that you could to get your children out? If they stay they could be forced to become child soldiers, raped, murdered or all three. There are many unaccompanied children amongst these so called illegals for this very reason. These parents send their kids away knowing that at best it may be many years before they see them again or at worst they will never see them again. This scenario affects large areas of East Africa.
• There are close to four million refugees from Syria alone. Approximately one in five of the entire population of Lebanon are Syrian refugees, one in ten in Jordan. Arguably, the severity of the Syrian conflict is a result of the wests refusal to intervene. Look at it how you will, this is a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions.
• Ukraine - the war the west dare not speak about.
• As the Huffington Post article points out there are no automatic right to benefits and Germany and Sweden are doing far more than the rest of Europe. Yet another example of the Daily Fail and their ilk sensationalising rather than reporting.

Now I'm not saying that we can take everyone (we can't) and I'm not making light of the situation around Dover/Calais. If they try to enter legally they are refused customs clearance so through the back door is the "best way". Europe and the UN need to talk constructively instead of just shifting the responsibility all the time.

And the question of weeding out potential terrorist sleepers has to be considered. But we cannot assume that every person who has given up everything that they had is a terrorist.

Camoclown (gawd bless him) has pledged an extra seven million to the crisis whilst at the same time they are considering spending billions on The Palace Of Westminster

Finally I'll leave you with this thought; Camoclown was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has lived a life of privilege believing it to be his right whilst Angela Merkel grew up behind the Iron Curtain in East Germany. Now consider which leader is at least doing something constructive and finding a way to help and which leader is pandering to the editorials of sensationalist "newspapers" ?

Just my take on the issue....................

 

We could do a swap, UK for AFRICA
Given the UK to live in they are then happy

We then transfer ourselves to Africa
We then have a very very large country, full of Gold, Diamonds, Oil, Trees, LARGE SAFARI parks
Sunshine, and beautiful seas, lakes, and sunsets, suntans,
So much we can sell to the ROW and stuff the EU

Jack McH

 

I think we all know why they are doing it, but what is the answer to stop what is probably the biggest move of people from their homelands that has ever been known.

Years ago, they just stayed and put up with whatever came their way, now days they are better informed, so think that by just moving around the world they can change their lot.

Which is fine, makes sense to them.
But puts one hell of a burden on the countries they enter.
Or at best, causes overcrowding, shortage of housing, and strains the infrastructure.

Dare I say it.
Maybe it was better in some of these countries when they we colonies, independence from European countries has mostly resulted in tribal wars, with many factions all wanting to rule.
Some countries have so many differing parties wanting to take control that they never will be at peace without an iron hand.

 

I blame the idiot who told these people that the UK Is the land of milk and honey and that If they come they will be housed,given money and finally given jobs,and then eventually these Migrants will be able to call on their parents,children,aunties,uncles,Uncle Tom Cobley and all to come and live here

What they don't know is that our island is very small compared from where they are coming from and we haven't got enough houses,money or jobs for our own folk let alone everyone else in the world

I expect my generation will have to work even longer in our old age so the pension age will again be adjusted to pay for all of this.

I thought the same as Jack lets swop places with them and they can suffer the joint pain we all suffer with in this cold damp country of ours while we live in the lovely warmth of their country

And another thing I remember years ago if we brought pets into this country they had to go into quarantine for six months I think it was at great expense to the owners in case the pets brought in Rabies etc,but I don't suppose any of these people are being checked for any diseases they might be bringing in and passing on to our people.

As Pete,I think it was said any one who has qualifications who wants to come and live here will do so through the proper channels so to speak.I doubt if you will see Dr's Dentists,and Nurses clinging to the roof of lorries trying to get here,just mainly young men who will end up working for the gang masters so they were saying on the radio this last week and they won't enjoy that me thinks

 

That is THE question, not the question of Dover/Calais. The answer is politically unpalatable - military intervention by the UN.

Or at least sleep safely at night.

You dare say it and sadly you're pretty much on the money. Pretty much what Putin thinks too. Now there's a paradox!

Doctors, academics, scientists and many other "valued professionals" are in the Calais ghettos trying to cross. What is happening respects no form social hierarchy.

It'll be adjusted to pay for us living longer and the Palace Of Westminster.

But that statement is untrue. That they will take any crappy job, that is true though. Let's not confuse these people with some of the former residents of Eastern Europe please.

 

That would be the majority of them, which is why there is a problem in the first place.