Other undercover growing?

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  1. JWK

    JWK Gardener Staff Member

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    yeah that ring culture method is good, but by deep planting you can pack in more trusses - in my mind anyway it's all about getting the first truss low down so you end up with lots more trusses before the plants hit the roof or needed stopping. Also deep planting need less watering, the ring culture idea you need to water every day (all in my humble opinion of course! :thumbsup:)
     
  2. Phil A

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    Sounds good to me John:thumbsup: Digging a hole is a lot more sound than buying plastic to make an overground hole, especially if you fill the hole with compost.
     
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    I agree John, last two years I have used deep planting in growbags as much as is possible. Growbags where cut in half and stood on their ends..I worked out that when planted, the main rootball must have been close to the bottom of the bag. So around 18inches deep, first truss was about another 12-15 inches above that. In my tunnel this year I will be able to plant even deeper than that...I hope.

    Steve...:)
     
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    I quite fancy these, whenever I see them in the garden centre, but at a fiver each I walk straight past ...

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  5. JWK

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    I've not seen those before Kristen, is that a water reservoir? If so I guess it might be worth buying, the root ball looks really good and the plant growing on the right is very healthy. Not a bad result for gro-bags.
     
  6. Kristen

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    "is that a water reservoir"

    If I've understood it right you plant through the middle bit, and then fill that with compost (to deep-plant / earth up), and then you water into the outer circle which delivers the water close to the plant, and slowly-ish, and doing it that way stops you splashing the water on the leaves etc.

    Same things as cutting the bottom out of a 5p Morrison flower bucket and sticking an up-turned "bottom-less" 2L Pop bottle into the ground to water through!
     
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    Thanks for explaining Kristen, I thought it might be something clever for the money, I'll give it a miss at that price.
     
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    you won't be needing one of these either then ... holds a gallon of water, apparently (US Gallon though, I suppose, so [from memory] 10% smaller than ours)

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    That doesn't look so good Kristen, the tomato plant looks poorly - not a great advert.
     
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    Hmmm ... I wonder if it is a tomato plant?! Couldn't be something you smoke, could it?!

    This gadget is supposed to prevent attack by cutworm too (How? I ask myself ... Not that I have ever had cutworm on my Tomato plants ... but this is an American gadget ...)
     
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    I do deeper planting nowadays but don't use the growbags. As I buy lots of compost it works out much cheaper to use that than the grow bags. The cheap compost (Wickes) doesn't have the small amount of nutrition that growbags have so need feeding more.

    Re propagators: I posted this on another thread about them. As I am most definitely not a handyman I still found it easy and cheap to build. I used a heating cable that came with a thermostat control, some chipboard, plastic sheet and gravel.

    "I'm not very good as a handyman but didn't find it difficult but almost certainly didn't use the correct materials. Mine is 5ft x 3ft. The base and the sides are made of cheap laminated chipboard (sides are 9" shelving) and I lined them with heavy duty plastic. I then put in 4" of course gravel, drilled a hole at that level to put the sensor through, screwed the control box to the outside of the front, laid the heating cable on top of the gravel and then put approx 2" of fine gravel over the cable.

    I then made a very simple but not very professional cover that took me about 15 minutes. I inserted 1" x 1" uprights in the gravel, in the corners and the middle of the sides and pinned them there. Then put a roofing tack in the top of each upright, ran some lightweight wire around the tacks to make a wire perimeter and across from one side to the other. Pinned some lightweight clear plastic (with drawing pins) to the two uprights in the back corners and draped it over the side and front uprights and wires. To get to the inside of the propagator I just simply rolled the plastic back.

    Total time to make it - about two hours. Cost was negligible apart from the heating cable and control (£30 in 1976). It is still working well :dbgrtmb:

    I don't have the uprights or plastic top anymore as Oscar the cat has his home in the corner. :heehee:"
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  12. Chopper

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    Shiney

    You don't have to be a DIY expert or amythng else to be able to use a bit of initiative. Not everyone can or wants to spend loads of money on ready made items. Some folk just do not have the kind of disposable income required to buy all the fancy gadgets available today.

    When I go to my favourite garden centre, I am always amazed at the amount of products on sale to do basic gardening tasks. What is een more surprising is the amount of people that buy these items. To me, most of them are tacky expensive crap. I work on the basis that the less I spend on items that I do not really need for the garden, the more money I have to spend on my Harleys. I have a very good quality set of garden tools, all stainless steel. Thats what has been used for hundreds of years by very competant gardeners, so why do I need fancy expensive junk to grow beautiful plants?

    Sounds to me like you made use of what you could get your hands on and what you could afford at the time. Well done you. You never know what you can achieve until you try.

    Chopper:)
     
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