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    Well today I have added this magnificent specimen to my collection, a chamaerops humilis standing 5ft 6ins tall.

    It's a belated wedding anniversary present off my lovely wife, got it from one our local shops and the owner knocked a good chunk off the original asking price which was reasonable to start with :)

    Happy days :)

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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      5ft 6ins, that's pretty good.
      looks in good health also.:dbgrtmb:
       
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        Hi, I'm a newbie to this site, I have got 2 Phoenix palms that I bought & planted in the garden 2 years ago, was advised to just put them in and they would be fine!
        They were fine over last winter but this year all the leaves have turned brown & drooped, the crown has also gone brown & looks dead!
        The crown has easily pulled out and several other older husks which were wet & mouldy, The remaining ones are quite firm but no sign of life. The question is, is there any chance of these recovering or is there really no hope?
        They are situated in a south west facing garden on the South Coast.
         
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        Difficult to say without a photo.
        But it sounds a bit drastic, and my thoughts are that any recovery would take a long time.

        Over the last two winters I would have said that Phoenix canariensis would have survived on the south coast, seems strange they survived the winter before last, but not the last one.

        Are you close enough to the sea to get salt burn?
         
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        Welcome to the Forum

        A photo would help. But it sounds like the palm is dead. Or if not, heavily damaged by the cold.
        I have a Phoenix in a pot. I bring it into the garage over winter, and the fronds still get damaged.

        If you are interested in a Palm, Trachycarpus is virtually bone hardy.
        And Chamaerops is too, though I do get some minor cold damage on the leaves of certain clones.

        Both Trachy and Cham are widely available at most garden centres, and I have even seen them for sale at Homebase. In a range of sizes. Small one grow quickly once established.
         
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        Thanks, for your reply, I will try & get a pic later today but my gut feeling is that they have died, not close enough to the sea to get salt burn & in a sheltered part of the garden. :(
         
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        Thanks for the reply, yes i think you're right sadly :(
        Thanks for your advice and I will look out for the palms you have mentioned as a replacement.
         
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          No, they don't. Chances are they are finished
          Small chance they might recover, but they will always struggle.

          If it was me, I would dig them up and replace them with Trachycarpus
           
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            To me those look like Phoenix roebelenii trunks and not Phoenix canariensis and won't survive outside in the uk.
            Like Sirius says dig up and plant a trachycarpus or chamaerops
             
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              R.I.P that palm .
              What about replacing with a lovely brahea armata. Not as hardy as a chusan or humi but lovely bluey colour but pricier.
               
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                :cry3:Thanks Guys, pretty much what I thought !
                Will start looking out for some different varieties to replace them with.
                I will take your advice and look for the varieties you have recommended
                many thanks :)
                 
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                Ok guys, advice taken.....palms now dug up and disposed of!
                I'm now the the proud owner of 2 Chamaerops image.jpg image.jpg
                 
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