Passiflora and other "exotic" climbers

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    1620559_10207308935755948_5546252524225447984_n[1].jpg P.anemona extimate -6/8c
     
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        passiflora-snow-queen-comp-caer[1].jpg This is a new Hybrid available this spring
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            Have you got a pic of Constance elliot showing the difference?:smile:
             
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            Pete the constance elliot it`s actually a white form of caerulea , while the one you got it`s a cross of Constance elliot x eichleriana , more pretty but soft to frost , look carefull at the leaves
            the base under the anters it`s not white but look bold green they look almost the same but they are not , for garden center it`s better selling you the soft version ;)
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              You may be right Sal, I'm not expert enough to say really, just bought it as Constance Elliot, I did know that it was a white sport from caerulea.
              I've also read that most plants of Constance are virused.

              Going by what you say, only 3 degrees softer to frost.
               
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                Sal - That is some collection you have going there! Are you and Dr.Maurizzio now best friends :heehee:
                 
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                  Longk better then that ;) ....I am the missing link lol

                  Pete , constance elliot have virus in UK but mainly the one sold in garden center , but not all , I personally just got a new form of constance elliot , which is the one that produce edible fruits , yes they are sweet fruits , and the plant has no virus , also have the big version of it called P.Avalanche again a -10c with flower between 10/12cm across ...start making my own hybrids and grafting to see how much cold can handle , also tacsonias produce edible fruits and fine in cold greehouse no protection at all
                   
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                    That is an issue that can affect a few interesting natural selections in many species. I once bought a nice Tricyrtis, googled it when I got home and found out that it was a virused form. It had to go.
                     
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                      I have joined the Passiflora club with a plant of 'Constance Elliot' & another labeled as 'Empress Eugenie' which I've now discovered is a tender sterile hybrid between P. alata & p. caerulea which hopefully will survive an Isle of Wight winter (I'll take cuttings as well)

                      amazing what you can find at the back of the £1.50 plants at Morrisons :)
                       
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                        If you're planting 'Constance Elliott' out, chaps, it's not so much winter frost you need to worry about as suckering. All over the place! If anyone wants plants, PM me.
                        I've grown P. incarnata, P. foetida and P. mollissima outside in the UK and have tried P. alata, P. vitifolia and P. mollissima (probably not true to name, it seems) here, with spectacular lack of success. The P.m did set some flower buds this summer, but it got way too hot and they dropped off.
                        Podranea r. has it's first buds at the moment.
                        Dregea sinensis (AKA Wattakaka) is a lovely plant for a sunny, sheltered wall. Similar flowers to Hoya, but smaller and beautifully perfumed.
                        Mandevilla suaveolens performed well this year..big clusters of white flowers but strangely, no scent that I could detect. A friend that I gave a plant to assures me that his was scented, so perhaps my sense of smell is giving out along with all the rest :biggrin:
                        I'll swot up on Passifloras but could anyone give me some pointers as to best suppliers of seed, best time to sow etc, please? There's going to be some major overhauling of a border this autumn and I'd like to try growing passionflowers through shrubs instead of clematis. Thanks:)
                         
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                          Our Passiflora gets very little attention (none, is probably a better description :heehee:) and gets chopped back when it starts getting in the way. It grows in the rather restricted bed alongside the car port and has stretched both ways along the fence. It has now reached across nearly 30ft of fence with three quarters of it into the covered pergola. This is becoming a nuisance as it has climbed the pergola as well and drapes down across the seating area and across other plants. That's when it gets its chopping back.

                          Something is enjoying the fruit

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                          And there are dozens of fruit. They look quite nice but then they suddenly drop to the ground.
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                            Loving the pictures in this thread - dont have much to contribute other than Ipomoea Indica - which is flowering on the sunny side of my house:
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                            Not at all hardy so will probably need to be cut back & stashed in the greenhouse pretty shortly
                             
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                              Campsis with Bougainvillea climbing through it.
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                              I think some people treat this as a climber, Plumbago.
                              I find it a bit straggly when left to its own devices.
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