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    For those that are not aware, a US fluid ounce is about 4% smaller than a UK one.

    Originally, it did have to do with both weight and volume.
     
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    As it's the volume of one ounce of water, using it for other stuff is a logical as it would be to use the term 'fluid grammes' instead of cubic centimetres for metric volumes.
     
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      I see things a little differently. According to law, a gallon of water is the volume of 10lbs of water. Therefore, 1 fluid ounce is either 1/160th of a gallon by volume, or 1/160th by weight.

      The thing is, the weight of liquids vary. For example, 1 gallon of petrol weighs 7lbs 4oz. In turn, this means that 1 fluid ounce by volume is the same, but by weight only 0.725 ounces. Therefore, it is wiser to use cubic inches of liquids, or cubic centimetres/liters/ etc., now we are sadly metric.
       
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      I think you've got that the wrong way round. :noidea:

      A U.S. fluid ounce is 4% bigger than a UK one.

      A U.S. pint is 16 U.S. fluid ounces but approx. 16.65 Imperial ounces. So their fluid ounce is bigger than ours.

      But their gallon is smaller as our gallon is 8 Imperial pints and their gallon is 8 U.S. pints. - approx. 17% smaller than ours. :)

      Don't get me started on the 'short ton', 'long ton' and 'metric ton'!! :loll:

      Here in the U.K., particularly when dealing with the public and not commercial, we've reverted back to discussing things in Imperial.

      This followed a sad case of a market trader being sent to jail for not complying with the E.U. law which said we have to put metric first, and larger, on signs of goods for sale. He sold fruit and veg and argued that his customers didn't understand metric so he had Imperial measures first, and larger. He, also, weighed and sold them in Imperial.

      After warnings from the authorities he was taken to court, refused to comply, refused to pay a fine and was put in jail. The stress of the proceedings caused him to have a heart attack and he, sadly, died. Subsequent to that the government overruled the E.U. and said that Imperial could be first, and larger, but metric must be shown somewhere.

      Big supermarkets have a lot of their products in metric but not all.

      Timber is still sold in Imperial - but not officially. :scratch:

      When I'm dealing with authorities I always speak/write in Imperial just to pee them off :lunapic 130165696578242 5:
       
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        Quite right as regards the difference between US and UK fluid ounces.

        I vaguely remember the case mentioned, ridiculous to jail him.

        Oddly, we buy timber here in a kind of mix of measurements. Section in inches, length in metres...
         
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          In the USA there's only 5 x 750ml bottles of wine to a gallon, whilst in the UK there's 6 x 750ml bottles of wine to a gallon.

          I know I'm in the best country to make gallons of homemade wine.
           
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            Ahhh timber.
            Its a good one.
            We went metric around 1970ish.
            But the Yanks ruled the world, so softwood was converted to 25mm 50mm etc.
            inch, 2in.

            But hardwood still stayed in inches for a long time.

            But if you buy it, its usually given in sawn sizes, so 50 mm, 2in will only give you 45mm or 1 3/4" when planed, called EX sizes.

            Back in the 70s it was nothing to go into a DIY shop and ask for 10ft of 4x2, to be told we have gone metric now, and offered 10units of 100x50.
            A unit was 300mm:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
             
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            Went to the DIY shop and asked for 1 x 2" timber and was told it was now metric, the new size was 25 x 50mm and did I want it in 6 or 8 foot lengths?

            Working in construction, on metrication I went to buy a metric scale rule and was asked whether I wanted a 6 inch or 12 inch one.

            Those were typical of what happened. Somewhere, I've still got my conversion scale rules, essential for working with existing imperial drawings such as 1/8th inch to one foot (1:96 imperial, replaced with 1:100 metric), made even worse by some contracts based on imperial documents not being finalised until several years or so after commencing new ones in metric.
             
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              Was recently in Scandinavia. A glass of draught beer (looks to be about 3/4 of one of our pints?) €5 in an ordinary neighbourhood basic pub. Trendy pub or bar €8 upwards. Ouch.
               
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              A lot depends on where you were. In Sweden, up until the late 80's a glass of beer was the same as a british pint, ie 568cl. Then the size started to reduce. Typically, its now 40-50cl. In some places, no more than 35cl.

              No wonder swedes tend to drink at home. After paying a visit to Denmark or Germany to get cheaper beer! Cheers! Hic! :snork:
               
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              Admin ! Please order a dozen books on metrication :biggrin:
               
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              When I was working (a long time ago) I used to speak to a lot of teenagers. They told me they didn't understand Imperial and had only learnt metric. When I asked them how tall they were or how much they weighed I got answers similar to 5ft 11inches and 10 stone 12 ounces!!!

              When I pointed out that was Imperial they didn't believe me! :doh: :dunno: :heehee:
               
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