Read if you grow Potatoes or Tomatoes - BLIGHT 2012

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    Turn my back for 4 days and my spuds are gonners:sad:
     
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    Yeah, it really is. Out of all the crops I grow, it's the spuds I really look forward to...
     
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    Just dug up my 'blighters'....handfull of charlottes and a trug full of Red Duke of Yorks...enough for a couple or so meals so not as bad as expected:frown:...having a bonfire tonight to get rid of the 'evils'....that'll upset the neighbours but right now i don't give a damn......
     
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    I think I may have blight on my spuds as well. I've been growing Charlotte and Casablanca in bags and in the ground. The ones in bags have been doing much better than the ones in the ground, but one of the plants in a bag has got brown mottling on the leaves. Other than that its actually looks healthy. I wish I could say the same about the ones in the ground, they are very small, yellowing leaves and straggly looking. Think they'll come up this week and see if anything is underneath them.
     
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    I live on the south coast and have just had to dig up all my outdoor roma tomatoes due to blight. Still got to explain to him indoors (the chef) that no tomatoes to freeze for cooking through the winter. Pototoes also affected although the potatoes that I have dug up look ok.
    i have been growing outdoor toms for years and this is the first year affected, anyone else on south coast having problems? Tina
     
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    Welcome to Gardeners Corner Tina:sign0016:

    Yep, all of mine have gone down, bad damp conditions for it this year i'm afraid.
     
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    It's not looking good for potatoes here on the island either. A friend told me on Friday that a farming friend of hers as lost his whole potato crop to blight. Tough days ahead I think.
     
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      Argh!

      Growing some grafted toms in my greenhouse, have been really impressed with the crop and how strongly the plants have grown, but recently noticed a few black patches on the (very thick) stems higher up on a few of the plants. The plants haven't been wet and I don't think it's been windy in the greenhouse, plus we used all new compost so I've no idea a) how it happened and b) what to do.

      This is only my second year of growing toms- last year 2 outdoor plants died really quickly and now from googling I realise it was blight... but they weren't in my greenhouse :(

      I've only just heard about this thing we're supposed to spray, so nothing has been protected. Is it a brand name, or do I get any one with copper? And is it ok to spray the fruit as well as foliage?

      So to make the best of it now... What would you do?

      1. Pull out all the tom plants even those which don't have black patches (and cry)?
      2. One those that have black patches, pull out the entire plant even if only a little bit of stem higher up has gone black? (& spray the others?)
      3. Chop off the black bits but keep the rest of the plant (& spray)
      4. Don't chop anything off, spray, and hope for the best??

      Thanks in advance
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      All is not lost!

      I’ve fought blight in the greenhouse on tomatoes and with a bit of care you can prevent it getting much worse.

      Firstly what you describe is not necessarily late blight, usually that starts on the leaves. By the time it gets into the stems it’s too late and that plant has had it.

      However I would treat your problem as though it was blight because you need to act very quickly, blight can wipe out plants in 48 hours if you do nothing.

      I would recommend you remove any infected leaves. Cut them off cleanly with some sharp snips. Drop them into a plastic bag there and then, don’t keep them in your hand as you work or touch other parts of the plant with them or your hand. If stems are really badly infected you will have to cut them off too as they will just infect the rest of the plant even with spraying.

      Then spray with Bordeaux Mixture (http://www.gardensite.co.uk/Vitax_Bordeaux_Mixture_175_g.htm - available at all Garden Centres and DIY Sheds). If you can’t find that then slightly more expensive is “Fruit and Vegetable Disease Control (Bayer Garden)”.

      Spray the undersides of the leaves more than the top surfaces (the blight spores enter underneath).

      Once you have blight it’s not possible to get rid of it without removing all the plants, however spraying slows down it’s spread and you will get a few more weeks growth out of your plants and protect your ripening fruit. So keep monitoring your plants, repeat pruning/spraying if the infection spreads. Follow the instructions on the spray packaging label, it will say how often you can spray, probably every 3 weeks is the maximum.

      Walk away from the greenhouse after spraying and leave it for a few hours. Wash your hands and change your clothes before going back in.

      Clean your snips in disinfectant afterwards.

      Late blight is highly contagious; you can bring it into the greenhouse on your clothes if you happened to brush past some infected potatoes for example. It is quite rare to get it in a greenhouse, I think I got it using water collected from my shed roof, but I’ll never know for sure.
       
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        Thanks JWK, really useful!

        So I sprayed my toms with Bordeaux Mixture about two weeks ago, and it definitely seems to have slowed down the spread of the black patches on the stems.

        I've been keeping an eye on it (secretly hoping it's not blight!) and nothing much has been going on, but lately I noticed some of the toms were going weird rather than ripe so I went in and chopped out some of the stems with black patches as well as removing the weird toms. I sprayed again too.

        I've not noticed any black spots on leaves. Some leaves are going crispy and brown, but I wondered if that was just them being scorched through the glass? The black patches on the stems are all quite high on the plants, and started out where two stems were rubbing against each other- so I originally thought it was just damp or condensation from the greenhouse.

        I've attached some pics below of the bits I've cut out, they've not changed in about 4 weeks, two unsprayed, two sprayed- does it look like blight? And if so am I just being really lucky that it's not spreading that fast?

        Slightly different question- if the tops of my toms are still producing flowers, is it too late in the season for these flowers to become toms? I thought I'd stopped them but obviously not and I don't have the heart to cut off flowers! I'm too hopeful... Big error it seems!

        Thanks,
        Heather

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        The rotten fruit does look like blight so you have done the right think in cutting them off. A couple of us on the forum have the same problem this year with blackened stems, only with outdoor tomatoes. I took my affected plant into RHS Wisley for them to advise and diagnose about a week ago, I haven't heard back from them whether it's blight or something else yet, they say it may take up to 10 days.

        Regarding your flowers at the top of the plant, I still have some on mine, maybe it's a little hopeful but even if they don't ripen you can use the green ones for chutney.
         
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