Renovate or maybe start from scratch.

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    I have levelled the ground but I am still not satisfied. It just does not seem to be completely flat (spirit level flat). Maybe I am expecting too much.

    There are no divots or bumps. The higher parts transition smoothly to the lower levels. I just cant seem to get it completely flat at one even smooth gradient all across ending at the slope.

    I don't know if I am trying for the ultimate perfection that may not be possible. Or may be it needs more work.
     

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    It looks perfect to me Mosamahab, I don't think even groundsmen for bowling greens use a spirit level! :) When a garden has a natural slope it's not going to look perfectly level and as far as I can see from your pictures there is nothing else you can do. Think about the fact that it's going to look different when the grass is there and any imperfections you can see now on the bare soil will probably disappear.

    Sow the seed, let it grow and establish through this coming autumn and winter and if you're not happy next spring then you can make some adjustments without having to dig it all up again. :)
     
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      I tried to improve it further today but it was futile so I decided to just roll it and put some fertilizer down.

      Do not have a hose so I am gonna wait a few days till the rain returns as we seem to be having a couple of days of sunshine for now. Then sow the seed and hopefully nature does the rest.
       
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        The grass will need watering every day if it doesn't rain or it won't germinate and establish properly.
         
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          Hmm, right. I will have to buy a hose then.

          What about walking on the grass to water it before it is completely established, I thought you had to avoid walking on it. How long should I be watering it for (2 weeks, 3 weeks).

          I was hoping rain would take care of it since it is manchester and it rains quite a bit as it has been everyday for the past two weeks. I'll try and find a hose attachment and a long pipe because I have to tackle the front garden after this is finished.
           
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          If you get a hosepipe and buy a spray gun, better still a sprinkler attachment you won't need to walk on the grass to water it. It will take up to two weeks for the grass to appear and at least a further six weeks to get some decent roots down. During that time you must keep it watered but you can reduce the watering to every two or three days after the first three weeks of growth, unless of course it rains. From late September onwards it will probably look after itself.

          You should stay off the grass as much as possible while it is establishing but it wouldn't hurt to walk over it now and again as this will break the grass stems and encourage it to produce side shoots and fill out. :)
           
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            The reason why we do not have a hose pipe till now is because we do not have a tap outside. The other reason is that in manchester it rains all the time so have never needed to water anything.

            I am trying to find a kitchen tap fitting now.

            I was unsure about walking on the new seedlings after germination for watering purposes. We have never used our gardens mostly due to the dire state they were in. So other than walking on for watering they will not be getting used. You think that will be alright ?

            I was thinking the sprinkler will not get the corners or the garden. If walking on new grass seedlings is not good, I will have to get a sprinkler attachment then I suppose.
             
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            It's possible to get a fitment for your kitchen tap, a plumbing supplier is probably the best place for that. I'm not to far from you and it's not stopped raining since early spring here apart from a dry day here and there. It's not been a good year for gardening and plants have suffered but the lawns and weeds have done well! :doh:

            Continually walking on the lawn to water it with a can is not a good idea as you will compact the soil and the new grass shoots will struggle. A sprinkler will get to the corners if you buy the right type and the water output can be adjusted at the tap.

            It's occurred to me that laying seed and keeping it watered is quite difficult for you, have you considered laying turf? This will give you an instant lawn that establishes itself quicker.
             
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            Every problem has a solution. I will find a way to get this done :biggrin:

            I will get a tap connector and already bought the hose pipe/spray attachment for delivery.

            I already have the seed so I am going to use that. Plus the finances won't allow for laying turf. I am also enjoying this whole process. I wont be watering it with a can, that is too much unnecessary work. Plus that is too much walking on the grass as I guessed from the beginning.

            I realised that to water the ground I will have to walk over as it is 12m to the back corner. That's why I asked if it was okay to walk over newly germinated grass to water once a day as that is my only concern right now. Or maybe I am thinking too much into it, maybe the grass isn't that fragile and can take one walk a day :whistle:
             
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            If you must walk on the lawn to water then change the area that you walk on each time. With a spray gun you should be able to reach the corners from your footpath. :)
             
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            I did not know if a spray gun has that long water shooting range. If I can reach the end of the garden with water without having to walk on it would be fantastic.
             
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            If you buy one with a multi adjustable head then one of those should reach. I have one but rarely use it now because I have a sprinkler, with the right aim and water pressure it should do the job. :)
             
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            Put the seed down today. Now hoping the tomorrow's rainstorm does not wash it away.
             

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            Did you add any pre seed fertiliser?
             
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