Roses coming out!!

Discussion in 'Roses' started by jazid, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. Fran

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    Roseitu - the roses I uploaded from the front garden, this is their third season, having planted them in spring 2004 - so they're still quite young.

    I got ones in the back and a couple in the front that were in the ground when I moved in in 88 - so goodness knows how old they are. Still going strong though.
     
  2. Waco

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    Did I really say I didn't like David Austen roses??? WHAT - ME???

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    But this next one has to be the most seductive rose of all times, it is much darker red than photo, velvet in texture and the scent is heaven.

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  3. Honey Bee

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    ooohhh - this is torture!!!!! I have promised myself some more David Austin Roses when the Garden is finished.... I'm drooling over the catalogue almost daily.... these pictures are fantastic!!!

    I have Charles Darwin and Blythe Spirit (both yellow) and Cottage Rose, a pretty pink one... no pics though.... (all David Austin)
     
  4. Waco

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    Honey bee - DA roses do not like me, don't let me lead you astray, they are not always as good as they look.
     
  5. Fran

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    Beautiful pictures - but I would agree with Waco - I have David Austin roses, and find that they can be a bit green and sappy - not able to support the weight of the flowers with some. Some though are very good - kinda like with any rose, some good, some less so, and some poor.
     
  6. Banana Man

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    DA roses are a bit hit and miss, I haven't used them in my garden but they seem very fussy on soil conditions when I have used them in clients gardens. Yours look happy Waco.
     
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    :eek: Oh Waco ...is that red rose for real
    whats is its name then? and is it Hybrid Tea.
     
  8. Waco

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    June, the red rose name - please tell me, all I can remember that its common name is Spanish and I think female. I t is a stunner.

    BM - you are right, even DA suggests supporting his roses, mine are behind box hedge (yes I know extra feed etc) but my new rose bed are all ......hibrid T, just gone for stability and ease.
     
  9. Honey Bee

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    Well, I got them around 18 months ago, and they look fantastic - allbeit a bit battered due to the work. I just can't get over how much they have come on this year, and how many flowers they have on them - so far I can't fault them. One of them is flopping a bit, but with the number of flowers on it, any bush would. Once the first flush is over, then it will hold itself up no problem at all.
     
  10. Banana Man

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    I had almost all of my non DA roses from Cants of Colchester and they have largely all done very well.
     
  11. Waco

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    I am persevering with 6 DA roses, but my new formal rose bed are all HT form a local nursery.

    I tend now to buy them in late spring when I can see how strong a plant they are going to make - I know this is the wrong way to do it, but for me it works - you can see what you are getting.
     
  12. jazid

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    Wow, what rebels you all are! I am quietly pleased to hear the mediochre news wrt DA roses. I have also had problems with a couple of his variety's habits and requirements, but put it down to my ignorance and reliance on catalogue descriptions. I kind of think this old rose/english rose thing is a bit stale, and it's about time somebody started talking up for well mannered, disease resistant, repeat flowering roses that everybody can grow, and disregarding their provenance.

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    That's New Dawn (piccy nicked off the web - for some inexplicable reason I don't have one of my own). Can anybody fault this rose? I can't.

    The next one's name I can't remember apart from I recall it sounded rather cheesy (doesn't narrow it down much). Faultless clear pink buds fading to light pinky-white blooms, repeat flowering, scented, not a trace of disease, and don't bother to deadhead; the hips are stunning. Can anyone help with the variety?


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    Heres a jumble of what was supposedly Rosa Chevy Chase - but is some other unscented soulieana hybrid, with Golden Showers, and lonicera americana bringing up the rear. Underneath are some rather jolly geraniums I found in the market.

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  13. Hornbeam

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    The great thing about the rose family is that it is so varied. Formal and informal types don't sit well together, but you can take your choice. My garden is wholly informal and so I avoid the formal roses. I'm totally in love with David Austin roses and he has cleverly kept the shape and colours of the old fashioned roses and made them repeat flower.
     
  14. jazid

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    I know this is a bit of a mess, but these two are crackers as well:

    Rosa rubrifolia - faultless glaucous foliage, good hips, prone to junglyness, with visible behind it Rosa pimpinellifolia which makes an impenetrable hummock of canary yellow flowers before any other roses come out.

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  15. Waco

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    Oh hornbeam - please do not get upset about the DA thing, they just don'e like me.

    I grow New Dawn and for some reason this year it has black spot - AND I have never sprayed so much before. It is a good rose and I believe will grow North Facing too.

    As to the above glauca rose - mine is massive and I adore it, I am sure if hornbeam has not got one it would look great in his informal garden (send you a seedling if you want one). as to the geraniums (pelagonums) have to say jazid i think they are horrid in that position - well I am a yorkshire lass and speak my mind. as to golden showers, you have solved a problem for me - two actually.

    1 - I have a rose in front of house (east face) yellow and does well, I thought it was golden showers, but it is not after seeing your photo.

    2 - I need a new rose as I lost Albertine from building work, and "Golden showers" would do the job.

    I have just about finished Christopehr Lloyd "well tempered gardiner" his views on roses are very refreshing - but you shoulf read them in his own words.
     
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