Roses coming out!!

I'm not upset, my friend. Great thing about gardening is that we can do our own thing. Yes, I do have a couple of the glauca roses grown for their foliage.

 

Fair enough Waco! I like those geraniums though and they fill a problematic spot.

By the way my Golden Showers is not disease free. It gets black spot, and is prone to inexplicable and severe die back, followed by huge growth spurts. It appears vigorous but prone to some kind of soil condition/disease . Don't know how general that is though..and anyway it's 15 years old or more

 

well as hornbeam says - we can all do our own thing, and only the garden can understand problamatic spots, and we all have loads of them!

Thanks for info on "Goledn showers" still interested, its a good old faithful name. The yellow rose I was talking about must be all of 20 plus some and never any trouble, but don't know what it is.

 

Elizabeth of Glamis is a floribunda that was in the garden when we arrived. I've kept her as she is a grand old lady now and still flowers well.


Rosa glauca is also known as Rosa rubrifolia and does well in deepest shade. The leaves turn plum coloured and the flowers are small and rather strange.


[ 20. June 2006, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Hornbeam ]

 

Thats it..it is coming out..Golden Showers..
It is covered in black spot is a scraggy thing threw up a few blooms before the others it is now going...what to put in its place I did have Mermaid in Cambridge quite a vigorous single lemon with big gold stamens and trouble free very glossy foliage.. I have just requested Peter Beales catalogue to study,also ordered some sweet peas from Unwins their catalogue arrived today two new varieties... and thats it for today bit of watering later Shirly poppies still going strong... a cuppa I think now :D

 

Be very careful about replacing a rose with another rose. The second often doesn't do well, due to chemicals left in the soil by the first. Removing the soil and replacing is an answer.

However a way round it that I have found is -to plant the second rose next to the first, and leave them both growing. Remove the one you want to lose the following season - mind in a couple of occassions I've found the first picks up, and I haven't had to remove it - even a bourbon laid low with rust.

 

Changed my mind Fran, the thought did occour to me after a nap and a cuppa..Clematis perhaps? it is a south facing wall tho my Abelia that never did anything in Cambridge is growing at a rate of knots on this wall.
I shall enjoy the new rose catalogue maybe find room at the front among the droopy Davids :D :D :D

 

Blimey Fran, how far apart do you plant your replacements? Do you have any idea why it works? How did you discover this? Please tell, it could be a lifeline for one of my gardens.

 

Here's the first of my new roses to flower:


Abraham Derby- has a beautiful scent.

 

Jazid - I've always tended to plant things close together, so had already added a couple of roses to some well established ones. So I knew that worked.

When I had a rather sickly bourbon rose on its own, which developed rust, I remembered rose sickness, so after spraying planted a rose on each side, prolly about a foot away. Both the new ones did fine, and the bourbon picked up too. So tried it again with another rose - that I intended removing - that worked too. Removed the rose, the following season, once the new rose was established.

 

Liz, how perfect is that first picture of Abraham Derby.

 

Thanks Fran. I shall try this out when I plant up this winter to see what happens. Do you think it would work on roses already weak - possibly with replant sickness?

 

Liz I have Abraham derby and it does well for me too, though I will try to follow hornbeams advise on controlling the droops!

 

I doubt if it would work with a rose with rose sickness. As I recall its due to enzymes left in the soil by the previous rose, and therefor they would affect any other planting too.

 

Can anyone put a name to this rose, please? It was in the front garden when we moved in and was badly placed right up against the house where it bakes in the sun. For years it didn't flower or grow and I was going to dig it up. Instead, I cut out the dead wood and fed it on chicken pellets. It has flowered now, but I have no idea as to what it is. Thanks.