Runner Beans - Same Place Every Year?

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  1. JWK

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    Yes it is important to get the orientation correct in order to grown another crop underneath. The idea is to get the sun into the frame, so the open side should face south, on that photo above in my post #14 the sun should be coming from the right hand side:

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    This following photo is mine, I've modified it to get a longer overhang at the top, so I can pick from the path, and also raised it to about 7ft high to allow the beans a bit more dangle space. As you can see I'm putting the extra space to good use, storing compost :)

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    That is what I do fileyboy.. My trench is in the same place every winter & I get excellent crops..
     
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      Ah, of course, I remember now. Opposite to what I said. :frown:

      Open side facing South means that the Beans will naturally "climb" the roof supports.

      Nice dual-function Mulch there @JWK :)
       
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        This may be relevant only if you don't need to use the space under the frame.

        In my trialling of different systems I found that I got, overall, better results with the rows in a N/S orientation rather than E/W.

        Also, once in a N/S orientation, there was a much better cropping at the northern end than the southern end and a slightly better cropping on the east side than the west side.

        The plants on the east side cropped between one and two weeks longer than the west side - for the last three successive years.

        Although it may seem that the beans would have a natural predilection for growing towards the south I found no correlation between their growth pattern and orientation. Once they reached the top of the poles they went off in every direction, more or less equally.
         
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          This has really got me thinking...lol on how to build a support, I might just use some old timber or make the main support out of Galvanized pipe (1/2" screwed together) and then use canes for the runners, there are a million and one clips on Youtube to help.

          Will post some pictures once I get started, but for now I have decided to grow Polestar (seeds seem to be about 2 quid on Ebay) and maybe one other...Spring is in the air :)
           
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            @intel

            I've had a quick look and you can get them cheaper than that. I buy them in bulk but even if you just wanted 40 you can get them for £1.15 with free postage

            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POLESTAR-...ULTIPLE-AMOUNT-LISTING-FREEPOST-/360853807775

            the same seller is also doing them cheaper - at £1.10!!!
            http://stores.ebay.co.uk/grahamdn1a/RUNNER-BEAN-DWARF-FRENCH-BEAN-/_i.html?_fsub=406775011

            I'm probably going to buy 400 for £5.45 :hate-shocked:
             
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              I always use saved Polestar seeds, only buying from car boots at 20p/packet to grow for seed saving. Might not seem much, but doing that with lots different flowers and veg. every year has saved me hundreds of pounds.
               
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                If you're not selling the beans then saving your own is by far the best way to go. :blue thumb:

                I never leave any plants for them to set seed because I sell all the beans that I can produce. What extra beans I get off of even one plant, more than makes up for the cost of buying them and it saves me time and effort in storing them.

                The other advantage I get is if there's poor germination (doesn't happen often but did happen last year) the supplier sends me new ones free of charge.

                Most other plants we collect the seeds or take cuttings etc. :)
                 
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                  I had some lovely straight long beans last year, lost the packet, :dunno: so I saved the last half dozen for seed.
                   
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                      Just ordered Polestar - £5.90 for 520. A fraction over a penny per bean. :blue thumb:
                       
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                        Interesting photo of his Climbing Beans with Strawberries at their foot, in his tunnel :)

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                        I do my bean trench over the winter in the same place, 2nd year last year, and use a plain and simple metal garden arch, which takes 4 bean plants nicely. I don't need anymore than that so it is perfect, and I grow winter squashes underneath.:)
                         
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                        My beans are the one's that I use to grow when I was showing (15 years ago) I keep a few for seed each year ,I grow about 20 plants for my own use a give what's left to any new plot holder who would like e few.The only think is I don't know what they are called now,if you grow them right you can get beans up to 18ins long
                         
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                        Looking at the RHS site, April - May seem to be the best time to sow the seeds :)
                         
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