Separate Moan Thread About The Election

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  1. Fat Controller

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    I've no doubt they will find all sorts - I'd even bet that if we were allowed access to things, we would find even more. We are focussing on the last 14 years with the Tories, but let's not forget what went before them... it was riddled as well.

    Make no mistake, I would gleefully stand at the door of Parliament dishing out P45's to all of them - as they are ALL part of the problem. The vast majority are career MP's that would never last in the business world.
     
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      1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
      2. Low mortgage rates.
      3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52 per hour.
      4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
      5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
      6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
      7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
      8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
      9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
      10. 3,700 rebuilt and significantly refurbished schools; including new and improved classrooms, laboratories and kitchens.
      11. 85,000 more nurses.
      12. 32,000 more doctors.
      13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
      14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
      15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
      16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
      17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
      18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
      19. Restored city-wide government to London.
      20. Record number of students in higher education.
      21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
      22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
      23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
      24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
      25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
      26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
      27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
      28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
      29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
      30. The Child Poverty Act – 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
      31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
      32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
      33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
      34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997: the shortest waiting times since NHS records began.
      35. Banned fox hunting.
      36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
      37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
      38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
      39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
      40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s and disabled people.
      41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
      42. Over 3 million child trust funds started.
      43. Free eye test for over 60s.
      44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
      45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
      46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
      47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
      48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
      49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
      50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
      51. Gender Recognition Act 2004/5
      52. Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland.
      53. Walk-in Health Centres and GP out of hours Service.
      54. Digital hearing aids, through the NHS.
      55. Children’s Act 2004, 2008 – Every Child Matters.
      56. Introduced Smoke–Free legislation, 2007 – child health improving continually since.
      57. Retail Distribution Review – ending commission for financial advisers
      58. Introduced legislation to make company ‘blacklisting’ unlawful.
      59. The Equality Act.
      60. Established the Disability Rights Commission in 1999.
      61. The Human Rights Act.
      62. Signed the European Social Chapter.
      63. Launched £1.5 billion Housing Pledge of new affordable housing.
      64. The Autism Act 2009.
      65. New Deal for Communities Regeneration Programme.
      66. All prescriptions free for people being treated for cancer or the effects of cancer.
      67. Introduced vaccination to be offered to teenage girls to protect against cervical cancer.
      68. Rough sleeping dropped by two thirds and homelessness at its lowest level since the early 1980s
      69. 2009 Marine and Coastal Access Act.
      70. Increased Britain’s offshore wind capacity than any country in the world, to provide enough electricity to power 2 million homes.
      71. Led the campaign to win the 2012 Olympics for London.
      72. Introduced the first ever British Armed Forces and Veterans Day to honour past and present achievements of our armed forces.
      73. Created a new right of pedestrian access, so that every family has equal opportunity to access the national coastline.
      74. Led the campaign to agree a new international convention banning all cluster munitions.
      75. Launched the Swimming Challenge Fund to support free swimming for over 60s and under 16s.
      76. Sustainable Communities Act – created community safety partnerships.
      77. Set up a dedicated Department for International Development.
      78. Cancelled approximately 100 per cent of debt for the world’s poorest countries.
      79. Helped lift 3 million people out of poverty each year, globally.
      80. Helped to get 40 million more children into school, globally.
      81. Worked to ensure polio is on the verge of being eradicated, globally.
      82. Ensured 3 million people are now able to access life-preserving drugs for HIV and AIDS.
      83. Improved water/sanitation services for over 1.5 million people.
      84. Launched a Governance and Transparency Fund to improve governance and increase accountability in poor countries.
      85. The Neighbourhood Renewal programme – introduced funding for neighbourhood improvements.
      86. The Extending Schools Program – included Breakfast and Homework clubs to improved levels of educational achievement and the longer term life chances of disadvantaged children.
      87. Launched the Connexions Service – provided valuable careers advice and support to young people seeking employment.
      88. Introduced Working Family Tax credits to support low paid parents in work and to pay for childcare.
      89. Introduced the Education Maintenance Allowance (EMA)
      90. Established The Future Jobs Fund to provide all young people access to a job, training or education.
      91. Introduced Warm Front – helped 2.3 million vulnerable households, those in fuel poverty, with energy efficiency improvements.
      92. Guaranteed paid holidays – introduced a law to ensure that everyone who works is entitled to a minimum paid holiday of 5.6 weeks,
      93. Introduced the right to request flexible working.
      94. Introduced improved work hours – introduced a law so employers cannot force employees to work more than 48 hours a week.
      95. Protection against unfair dismissal – introduced protections for workers and increased the maximum compensation from £12,000 to around £63,000.
      96. Introduced Rights for Part-time workers – the right to equal pay rates, pension rights, pro-rata holidays and sick pay.
      97. Introduced the Right to breaks at work
      98. Introduced the Right to representation – every worker can be a member of a trade union and be represented in grievance and disciplinary hearings.
      99. Rights for parents and carers – introduced the right to time off to deal with unexpected problems for their dependants, such as illness.
      100. Introduced literacy and numeracy hours in schools and extended diversity to the curriculum.


      For those with short memories, a few of the achievements of the last Labour Government. You would be hard pressed to nam any for this Government.
       
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        101. Invaded Iraq and crippled a country with a dossier full of fiction.

        102. Became War Crime Criminals
         
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          103. Let the errant bankers off the hook, further embedding the "profits are private, losses are for the public purse to bear" position that had been taking hold since the 1970s.

          That said, I agree the list is impressive and that so many of the achievements were smashed to smithereens by the political choice of austerity is a tragedy of the modern era and the harms done will take at least a generation to recover from.
           
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          104. Sold off our gold at a knockdown price
          105. Withheld the details surrounding Dr David Kelly's death, and embargoed them for 70 years
           
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            And there, exactly, is why we are skint!

            It is very easy to spend other people's money - especially when there is no comeback on you when you get it wrong.
             
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              Well fandabbydoozy. So we can look forward to Labour leadership to be the shining beacon of success and prosperity then. Honestly, these lists aren't worth spit; times, economics, trust and people in and out of government have changed.
              I don't give a monkeys which party is in charge as long as they have a coherent plan for stability and ability to deliver it
               
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                Unlike most of you [ I imagine ] I have worked in Iraq, and SH was an evil man who killed countless thousands of his own people and whose chemical weapons whilst not killing me, have certainly made the last few years very unpleasant.
                Did he deserve to die, imo, yes?
                Would he subsequently have used chemical weapons against the West, undoubtedly.

                Of course past achievements have value, none of us can see into the future, although some of you seem to think you can.

                "While Gordon Brown could have sold at a better price, for the vast majority of governments across established economies, there is no real point to holding gold.

                The purpose of foreign exchange reserves is not for the state to manage wealth on behalf of the country. People should do this for themselves.

                UK reserves should only really be used to underpin monetary policy, and to halt any possible crisis such as a significant run on the pound, not as any kind of sovereign wealth fund. The trouble is that gold is not well suited as a state asset, as its value is very likely to drop as soon as it is deployed as a government intervention mechanism." [ Quote from IFS, who are politically neutral ]

                The market is of course very different to that of two decades years ago, and any government selling today will not have anywhere near the same impact. But this doesn’t change the cold hard truth that gold is a market best fit for sophisticated speculators, not the state.[ Quote from IFS, who are politically neutral ]
                 
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                  It's not that we think we can see into the future @Punkdoc, it is more that we have been disappointed/let-down over subsequent governments (of both/all colours) - equally, many folks are utterly fed up of the Punch and Judy show that our parliament has become.

                  PS - the key to your defence of Gordon Brown (a man that I actually have a deal of respect for, believe it or not) is in your first sentence.. he could have sold at a better price. If I were to sell your car for half of it's worth, would you be happy? Of course not.

                  ALL governments have failed on many things such as housing, NHS, energy generation and distribution, transport, roads and all the while punishing us for going about our daily lives. Folks have had enough.
                   
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                  But as you will be aware the gold price changes on a daily basis, and GB although a good Chancellor, was not, sadly blessed with being able to see into the future.
                   
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                    Even David Blunkett had better foresight than Gordon [Breath] [Pause] Brown :heehee:
                     
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                      He's not wrong :dunno:

                       
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                        It runs a wee bit deeper than the gold though, as you will have seen by other replies.
                         
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