Small pond project

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      Ooh thank you! I will be out surveying bats. Martin, thanks for.the info. My OH is an electronics engineer. I might just talk him into making one!!
       
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        Went to Camperdown Wildlife Centre today and they have a bat viewing room there. Very dimly lit with a red light. Had the pleasure of watching at least a dozen short-tailed bats flying, eating fruit, grooming and sleeping. It was fantastic! Unfortunately my phone wasn't able to take clear photos.
         
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          I found some new snails in the pond today, ive not noticed this type before the others are small black ones.
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            Pond update, ive got lots of algae at the moment some areas are clear,

            I'm presuming one reason is that the plants are not feeding atm,

            Ill leave it as I don't want to disturb any wildlife, maybe remove some by hand later in the year ?.
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              That will be one of the reasons, Martin. Once the marginal plants start into their Spring growth you'll see a gradual improvement in water quality. Hard as it may be, leave the pond to sort it self out, adding new water without need will add Nitrates etc which will not help.
              Great planting of the Marginals!!:thumbsup::love30::snorky: Don't rush anything with the pond, let it "mature" for the 1st year and you'll see it all come together.:snorky:
               
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                Hi,

                You will always have algae in the pond, partic the first couple of years.

                Green water, blanket weed and duck weed the biggest culprits.

                Whatever the problem, now is not the time to do much about it, other than manually removing any you can get hold of.

                Once it gets warmer, say about 10c + than you could try some of the many ready made solutions.

                Barley straw could be added now, though again not sure if would work when so cold.

                I've used a bio/enzyme type before and its work well and fish etc not affected; (no longer sold)

                Be wary of some products which just kill all the algae suddenly as that can be harmful to the fish as all the sudden dead matter has to decompose.

                They always say add more plants to out compete the algae never seen that work in practice.
                 
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                  It's a 50/50 thing with Water Snails as they eat Algae and plant debris, but they will also have a munch on the marginals. Having said that I think they're part of pond life and don't do that much harm so I leave them alone in the Wild Life Pond. Last week when in the Observatory at around 2am I heard the Frogs start to croak away!!:snorky:
                   
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                    Many thanks A and ricky I will leave it be,

                    Its main cause is for wildlife but I do want to see in it :biggrin:, I don't want to add any chemicals, ill see how it goes later in the year its only a small pond and manually removing algae shouldn't be a issue just leave it by the side for at critters to crawl back in the pond.
                     
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                    The Barley Straw added to ponds is usually to medium to large ponds, not smaller ponds, in bales or bundles, Martin. The use of it merely duplicates the job the Marginal plants do, i.e: remove Nitrates and other nutrients. So if you've planted enough Marginals you'll not have use for the Barley Straw:snorky:
                     
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                      Thank you A I did buy two very small bales and cut one in half one half can be seen here with the snail on it.
                      Small pond advice please
                       
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                        This is kind of a side comment. @martin-f, where did you source your plants from? I have noticed that GCs that sell pond plants are usually infested with blanket weed. When buying these plants one is bound to introduce this pesky algae. I bought some pond plants online from specialist pond plant nurseries and they arrived bare rooted and clean. I’m no expert but it seems to me that buying from a GC in pots is a sure way to introduce blanket weed. It would be informative to hear of other people’s experiences.
                         
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                          Hi Redwing I got the plants from a local nursery, the issue has got worse as other plants have died off, as mentioned it can take a few years for the pond to get established I'm doing what I always do run before I can walk :scratch:
                           
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                            To be honest, I've never had a problem with Garden Centers and marginal plants. Blanket weed/duck weed, silk weed etc can be brought in by various sources other than new plants. Birds can bring in bits or seeds on their legs or even in their excrement. I've been given marginal plants from owners of commercial fishing lakes, etc, and even from people cutting back plants on rivers. So, long as you keep nutrients to a low, then "blanket weed" will be minimal or non existent. Excess weed growth is a sign of too much nutrients in the water, which is where Marginal plants come in.:coffee::snorky:
                             
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                              I`ve found that water cress is particularly beneficial, I also made a pre filter last year that has improved things hugely.

                              Before I installed the pre filter, I found baby fish and other creatures were being sucked into the pump - very distressing..... that doesn`t happen now.
                               
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