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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    To be honest I'm not well up on pond filters that are available these days, mine is pretty basic, you will need to do a bit of research.
    You could probably use your pump that you already have.

    If you want a quick fix on green water then you need one with a uv light, blanket weed will only reliably be sorted out by using plants in the water.

    But you say it wont fit, that really does look to be a tiny space, and enclosed to be trying to make work.
     
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      Hi Gizmo, well, to be honest, I think an 18 inch deep pond is too shallow and I wouldn't recommend it.......apologies for sounding negative.
       
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      • pete

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        Mine isn't much more than 18ins, and its been ok for years.
        Depth is only a real issue if you want large fish, mine doesn't warm up too much in summer, it gets afternoon shade.

        If it did warm up my tropical water lilies might have worked.:biggrin:

        If you really needed more depth than that in a small pond they wouldn't make them.:smile:

        We dont all have acres of space.:frown:
         
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          Gismo, wont that pond fit in if you put it at an angle of 45 degrees.
           
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            many thanks for your reply the pump we have has got uv light but didnt seem to help unsure why .what would be the min depth for pond for fish , it sounds like to me i am not going to find a preformed pond to suit , the fish would be small goldfish if possible. the size of area is 6 foot 5 from shed to side fence and 9 foot from path to back fence square ish . so to me it sounds like a digging job with walk around area on pond depending on what is under the soil or back to square 1 with a raised pond mmmmmm ?
             
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              Pete, it's not about space, it's about depth. 18" depth is more susceptible to freezing in depth or, in the Summer warming up, losing oxygen and Fish. You don't need "acres of space", (which I don't have), to have a pond but, if you don't want to waste money or hard effort, then it has to done properly. My Wildlife pond was dug, over 5 days, in the South West corner of the garden which we hadn't used very much. Space in most gardens are at a premium so any project needs a bit of help and advice from everyone.

              Well, that all depends on what the manufacturers think the buyer can afford, so minimal depth equals minimal price but that doesn't always mean that it's a good thing.
               
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                Mine is 24 ins at its deepest point, average depth bearing in mind it has shelves around the edges is probably closer to 16ins .
                It was dug out 33yrs ago and I put 9 small goldfish in it a year later, I've given no end of goldfish away over the years and it still contains more than I can count and they spawn every year around June, I then see tiny fish in the weed by the autumn.
                A small amount survive, bearing in mind how many eggs the fish lay.

                I often get two or three of the largest ones die, mainly in spring, but I put this down to age and possible disease which will always be there as its nowhere near a sparkling clean pond, which you normally Koi in.

                Its also full of wildlife, but I would have made it differently regarding access for wildlife had I known then what I know now.

                But depth has never been a problem.
                 
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                  hi there seems to be difference of opinion about xyz which is ok but who to take advice from when your trying to sort things out . our sister in law has a pond as well 3 feet x 2 feet fish plants frogs etc , this is confusing not really sure what to do but many thanks for all you input

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                  I know it's difficult to see but this is 3ft by 2ft and is plenty deep for a few little gold fish, plenty of room for plants. It also has food space for getting in and out for frogs etc. We got it from world of water £50. I am using for a wildlife pond so no pump or filter, it's got frogs in it and under the leaves it is pretty clear! I have got leaves in the bottom for frogs to hide.
                   

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                    There are three main reasons why I'd go for a minimum depth of 2' or even 3'. The first is ice...it tends to freeze to a greater depth over a period of days and nights. So if it only freezes an inch per night, over a period of say a week, in a small pond, you'd have a thick layer of ice. That doesn't leave much space, oxygen or water for either fish or wildlife. The second reason is heat. Even with a fountain or waterfall running, the smaller the space, the more it will warm up, promoting algal growth and depleting oxygen levels. The third reason is herons. They may not be a problem in a small, crowded garden, but you never know! In a slightly deeper pond, you've got space to rest a length of drainpipe for the fish to hide in if necessary.
                     
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                      There's bound to be more than one point of view on anything on a forum :) In the end, only you can decide what best suits your situation, Gizmo. Good luck!
                       
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                        I have no doubt that the deeper the better, but in reality the depth has to be in relation to the overall size, if its a big pond you can easily make it a deeper pond.

                        I have herons from time to time, but they dont like enclosed areas when it comes to landing and taking off, plus I have lots of oxygenating plants, often I cant see the fish.

                        Mine has frozen over and it was a couple of inches thick on only one occasion I can remember.
                         
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                          many thanks for your help and advice , after searching www for a preformed that measures approx 5 foot x 4 foot 2 foot or over deep we cannot seem to find one so at some point i will either start digging and hope i find treasure or get another raised pond but then problems with frogs etc ...
                          at the moment i have taken things apart and the first thing to do is to raise the plants to hopefully get rid of some soil
                           

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                            My current pond is 18 inches deep and the new pond will also be 18 inches at it's deepest point as that is where I hit bedrock :dunno:. I would like it deeper but would have to hire a kango hammer or something :huh:. Unless, you have any suggestions?
                             
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                                Thanks for your reply we are in a council property and have neighbours all around. I am not sure at the moment what is under the soil where hopefully new pond will go. We can't get a maniacal digger in as not enough room using any form of explosive would be a problem with neighbours and utilities.
                                So with deapth of pond I have noticed some users are 18 inch but do they freeze have any creepy Crawleys. Fish. Frogs. Etc. I think I will have to wait and see. When it comes to digging out our new pond I would like to see all hands on deck?:old:
                                 
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