Spanish Holiday Palms

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  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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  2. Banana Man

    Banana Man You're Growing On Me ...

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  3. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Thats a good one BM, show me another Dozen and you will convince me. :D
     
  4. Sarraceniac

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    Parlour palms (Chamaedorea elegans) will thrive even in low light levels Beki. That's why they were (and are) so popular. They are the 'aspidistras' of the palm world, thriving on neglect. (But don't neglect it too much.) They love a fine misting with rain water every few weeks, especially in a centrally heated house. Here's mine:


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    Don't worry you haven't opened a can of anything. I have a great respect for both Pete and BM's knowledge, we are just disagreeing about whether the experts are being economical with the truth when they publish minimum temperatures. As BM says (or implies) it also depends on summer conditions, moisture conditions and age of palm. I'm just prepared to give the published figures more benefit of the doubt than Pete, who is far more cautious than me. I like to live dangerously. :D

    Anyway, we'll let you know in 50 years who is (most) right.
     
  5. walnut

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    Go along with what john says, our climate has changed considerably over recent years and now choosing the right palms they over winter quite easily, I think keeping the roots quite dry in winter is the key, the old gardening friend that found me after 20+years was growing 15ft specimens all those years ago, he had lagging jackets on them in winter but they used to come through ok, Beki I have 3 bottle palms from seed about 3 years old I keep them at min 50f over winter.
     
  6. walnut

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    Cross posted there John nice palms, get writing that book.
     
  7. BekiMac

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    Me again...

    I've been taking notes on all your comments, and I'm looking forward to trying something new [​IMG]

    well, they weren't wrapped individually, so although I know what they are now - I don't know which is which! :rolleyes:

    Can you help?

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    John I agree, the Parlour Palm is very tolerant (mine is a baby compared to yours
    [​IMG] ) I occasionally put all my houseplants out for a soaking during a down pour to benefit from the rain. [​IMG]

    Beki x
     
  8. Sarraceniac

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    From left to right, W. filifera, C. humilis and P. canariensis. And putting them outside in warm summer rain is a good idea, unless you keep an 8 foot parlour palm in your upstairs office. In that instance its a bad idea. :D
     
  9. BekiMac

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    Thanks again John [​IMG]

    Beki x
     
  10. strongylodon

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    I have never seen a Chamaedora Elegans that big John, I thought it was a Kentia (Howea) Forsteriana.
     
  11. Sarraceniac

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    Strongy. There always has to be one doesn't there? :rolleyes:

    Pete and I were discussing this in a PM conversation. So I might as well go public. ;)

    It was sold to me as a chamaedorea some 6 years ago by a very expensive, very respectable local garden centre. However, I had started to think it was a Howea when, like Topsy, 'it just growed.' However, neither of us can be certain, particularly as I seem to have, what Pete calls 'the knack' with palms (you should see the size of my trachycarpus). But what you have just said agrees with both our suspicions that it is a Howea (also called a parlour palm) and that is what I shall assume it is in future. But as I said to Pete 'I can't really sue them after 6 years particularly as I like it', and most pictures of parlour palms I see are probably Howea, not Chamaedoria.

    That's the trouble with too many experts on one forum. You don't have time to reconsider. They are there like a shot :D

    Seriously, thanks for your opinion, which just confirms ours. [​IMG]
     
  12. strongylodon

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    I just thought that if it was a Chamaedorea Elagans it would had fruited many times by now, all the ones I look after do so regularly but yours had no sign. To me it's a Howea and I have always known Chamys as Dwarf Parlour palms as that is what I grew them as in the 60's although then they were Neanthe Bella. I wish I had the room to have one at home.
     
  13. Sarraceniac

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    I just googled Neanthe bella, just out of interest. Quite interesting really in that, whilst the two 'expert' sites I went to, described it as smallish, one described it as 'slow growing' and the other as 'fast growing'. No wonder we get differing views on GC. [​IMG] :D :D
     
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    I have had to get used to a lot of botanical name changes over the years, eg the shrimp plant used to be Belloprone Guttata then it was Drejerella Guttata now it is Justica Brandigeana, as you say no wonder we get confused! :rolleyes:
     
  15. BekiMac

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    Hi,

    Hope no one minds me dragging up an old thread? Wanted to provide you with an update....
    http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/BekiMac/S4010004-1.jpg
    This is one of seven of the washingtonia filifera Calafornia Fan Palm which germinated in the propogater.
    Germination took about 6wks. This is the tallest; about 2ins.

    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the advice, especially John - I follwed your advice to the letter :)

    Still waiting for the others.....fingers crossed.

    Beki x

    PS Apologies in advance if my picture comes up massive! I have really tried to make sure it doesn't!
     
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