Technology has its place

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  1. HarryS

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    It seems most men love to ponder over maps and road atlas , much to the bewilderment of the fairer sex. "You're sat there reading a map !" :biggrin:
    North is at the top South the bottom and it doesn't matter what direction you are going in the male brain adjusts . But some folk do need to turn maps in the direction of travel . About 20 years ago , it may still be in print , a book of road maps was published with south at the top !
    Now to view these maps was really unsettling , there is Birmingham North west of me . A trip to Ambleside in the lakes meant driving due south - aaaaah my brain could not comprehend it :biggrin:
     
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      I agree with Dai - to a certain extent. Looking at a satnav can definitely be a distraction as you're looking and trying to absorb the info. That's different from looking around at the other vehicles or pedestrians as you don't need to concentrate on what you are seeing but are absorbing the info subconsciously. Also, having spoken to people about it, some of them keep glancing at the satnav when it's not necessary.

      Listening to the satnav is not so intrusive.

      I also agree with some of the comments above. I always study a map and jot down brief details of the route - road number, which exit on roundabout etc. By the time I have made my notes I have the details stored in my satnav in my head. :)

      My car has a built in satnav that is quite a good one but I only use it to help with the last mile or so, (mainly in towns) or to tell me of traffic problems. Even then you need to use a bit of commonsense because it asks if you want to try another route 'because of road conditions'. You then need to ask it what the 'road conditions' are. A lot of the time they are just road works that are not affecting the traffic much at all. There are also times when I know it's trying to take me the wrong way - because I've checked things on the map. Mrs Shiney is used to me sometimes saying "No!" when the satnav tells me to do something that is obviously wrong - usually trying to take me miles out of my way because the road is better. Mrs Shiney sometimes beats me to saying "No?" but I'm not sure whether that remark is to me or the car! :roflol:

      I have a very nice Atlas in my car. It's a leather bound AA one that they gave to me for having been a member for 50 years :old:. It has an attached 3" x 3" magnifier as they obviously think that old eyes can't see the maps properly :heehee:

      Although I study a map first I always check the route on line and use 'street view' to look for any problems and for the shot of the building I'm heading for.
       
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        I only listen to it. Wife holds the phone and the phone just talks as and when it needs to. Very rarely, I'll be unsure about an instruction. I'll then ask wife to make a judgement and she'll then look at the map on screen and guide me. If we get it wrong, sat nav simply reroutes to get us back on track.
         
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        As long as it doesn't work like the County Council! They closed the main road in the small town (big village) just by us because of resurfacing and put in a diversion. The diversion took drivers 22 miles, through two towns and four villages, to get to the other end of the half mile of works. The locals did it in 1.5 miles.

        I wouldn't be surprised if the Council used their super technological route finder. :doh:
         
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            They have crazy rules though don't they. I think when planning an official diversion, the route has to be on the same class of road as the works are on, or a class up. So for example if an A road is closed but you can get round via a B road, the diversion can't use the B road, so has to reroute via A roads or motorways.

            Satnav has the opposite problem. Sometimes it will try to take you down tracks too narrow for a reasonably sized car to fit down, just because it's more direct.

            The trick is, whether you're following a diversion or satnav or a map, common sense must be applied. Sadly that's the bit that some people overlook.
             
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                  Doesn't everyone?:yikes::redface: I used to have enormous fun in a Mini, wrestling with our big fold-out map of France to get it the 'right' way up:heehee:
                   
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                    I remember those! Mrs Scrungee would do that and almost entirely block out my view through the windscreen, especially when she'd push the opened out map in front of me.
                     
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                        When Mr "M"'s mother died we had to go up North to sort things out. One morning, we had to pick up his niece who lived somewhere we had never been to before so he decided to use his phone GPS. The very first instruction stated: "Head North ... " :huh: we were already *in* the North! Now, call me picky but, if you are in a car, on a road you do not know, in an area you have never been to before and ... you have NO COMPASS ... what use is that instruction!? He nearly had a fit with that one :roflol: until I looked out the window, traced the sun (even though it was cloudy) and then worked out where "North" was ;)

                        I would much rather use maps.
                         
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                          If you look at trees you will find them with more leaves on one side, the north side
                           
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                            And there's usually more moss on the north side of the trees as well.
                             
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                              Easiest way to identify which direction you're heading in an urban environment is to look at the indigenous wildlife.

                              What you'll find is that the further north you get, the more sparse the clothing gets. If you get as far north as Newcastle it is common to see the local fauna donning nothing more than a t shirt and jeans for the males, and something resembling a negligee on the females. Whereas heading south, the wildlife tend to be attired in thick, warm garments.
                               
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