Tender climbers

I'm shortly to be in the same boat

Will that grow BIG up a wall? Admittedly mine are only in 2L pots, but they just go round-and-round the wire and I am sceptical that they will make big wall plants?

Smell nice - overpoweringly so! - when in flower.

On a similar note I have several Hoya that I've been growing. I no plant to train these UP but rather to mount pot-holders on the wall and let them trail down instead. Again: nice scent

Gets a NO from me because it grows well enough outside, in Summer. I want to allocate my space to things that are more unusual.

OK, that will grow outside too, but I do like its delicacy - it would scramble THROUGH some other climber(s) so costs no extra space, eh?!!

That's a [borderline] outside plant too in my book ...

My feelings too

Yes

I love my Plumbago. Came from Jungle Plants and was described as a "darker Blue than the type". I'll try to root you a cutting this year. They have it quite a bit in the various greenhouses at East Ruston, and it looks nice just climbing the walls, in the background, and "doing its stuff".

Bit ruthless but I would try to grow a dozen or more, and then see what is a Good Do'er for you, and flog the rest on eBay, or give them away, or if they aren't Good Do'ers maybe they do the honourable thing all by themselves

If you get to Charlie P. then worth considering a Lapageria - I don't have one, yet, but seems to be the most widely quoted & voted "best conservatory climber" I think? Charlie won't ship his as he says they don't travel well ... so collection (or meeting him at one of the shows he attends) is your only hope.

IWOOT and I Have Wanted for some time, but I'm persuading myself that they won't do well enough in a container, and need more humidity than would be good for the structure of my conservatory :(

But I think LongK told me before that poor man's fall back was Mucuna bennettii ?

Looks the business, available from Urban Jungle and (I hope because I have one planted out in the garden ) Hardy

I plan to pick myself one or two Passiflora that are sufficiently "different" to cause folk to stop and stare, I'd like to have a collection of them, but like you I want some-of-everything, even though not achievable, rather than the national Collection Of One Single Genus

The couple of more unusual Passiflora that I have don't put out a great number of flowers, and those that they do only last a day or so - is that typical? because if so then they won't be putting on a spectacular show on their own, and you might get away with two-or-three in the space required for just one - intermingling?

Impressively large

Only other suggestion, off the top of my head, is Kennedia nigricans - I'm growing some from seed, I'll keep a couple by for you - if they germinate

 

Agree.

As an aside, with a little effort they trail as well and look good in hanging baskets.

I'm led to believe that there are better Bomarea for growing under glass. Mine certainly did better outdoors than under glass.

On the basis that it is less ultra tropical.

There is a mature specimen outdoors (in the protection of a large wall) at Oxfords BG.

What do you have (as much out of nosiness as owt else)?

I had two germinate and then forgot to water them. They are not tolerant seedlings!

 

"Incense" and something else that I can't remember (and isn't in the rather old Notepad file copy on this computer - sorry!) "Constance Elliott" maybe?

Got a long wishlist though :( I think Corry Rooymanns / Corry Rooymans may be top of the list though. And Blue Stripper. And maybe Panda.

 

Kristen - thank very much for all your useful comments. I am flying totally blind with these - so your experience and opinions are very useful. What you have said makes a lot of sense.

When the weather is warmer and I can empty my garden room, I am intending to put vine eyes and wires across the back wall. I think that was your suggestion - thank you. I will also put wires under the essentially flat roof. So will hopefully be able to train the climbers, which will eventually be in large - perhaps 35 or 50 litre pots.

I really have no idea how Stephanotis floribunda will grow. I am attracted to it by its fragrance. My plant is only small, but I have removed the wire hoop and untangled it and the strands are already 2 feet long. Internet sources say it can get up to 15 feet, so I have hopes. I am currently growing, or have seed for, 18 of the first 20 plants I showed. Obviously I can't grow them all to a large size, so a lot are going to get the chop ultimately .

I appreciate Asarina and Rhodichiton will grow outside. But I have never had a decent wall for them to grow up - so they are still on my possible list.

I have a seed grown Plumbago, but if you really have a darker one that sounds very nice thank you.


Mucuna bennettii


and Kennedia nigricans
These are two plants I don't know - they look very interesting. I couldn't see Mucuna on the Urban Jungle site, but Sunshine Seeds sells quite a few different Mucuna species and a range of Kennedias as well. However, I would be interested in a Kennedia seedling please, if you have one.

We must keep in touch, as it sounds like we have a similar situation. Hopefully I should have some seedlings of my climbers. But when you only get 5 or 8 seeds in a packet there are no guarantees of even one plant.

 

Looks darker in the picture than I remember it ... but its a nice shade of blue IMHO

Sorry, its the Clerodendrum trichotomum var. fargesii I was referring to that I got from them, but now I have looked more closely their site says Unavailable

http://www.urbanjungle.uk.com/produ...or sale &productid=1525&catcode=20&searchfor=

 

Hi all,
found this info on Hardenbergia, thought you guys might appreciate it
Key descriptors:
Climate parameters
Mean annual rainfall: 400-2400 mm
Rainfall distribution pattern: summer, uniform or winter
Frosts (approx. no. per year): greater than 20
Frost intensity: light to moderate (0 to -5°C)
Mean annual temperature: 10-21 °C
Mean max. temperature of the hottest month: 21-33 °C
Mean min. temperature of the coldest month: -3-13 °C
Altitude: 0-1250 metres
Tolerance of extremes in climate
Drought: known to be moderately drought tolerant
Frost: tolerates frosts in the 0° to -5°C range
Soil factors
Texture: clay loam or loam, sandy loam, sandy clay loam
Soil pH reaction: acidic (less than 6.5)
Soil depth: skeletal to shallow (less than 30 cm)
Drainage: well-drained
Salinity: non-saline
Tolerance of adverse soils
Soil waterlogging tolerance: nil - sensitive to waterlogged soils
Biological traits under cultivation
Habit: evergreen vine
Longevity: short-lived less than 15 years
Growth rate: fast
Root system: shallow and spreading
Shade tolerance: grows best in full sunlight or tolerates partial shade

most of the conditions requiremnt makes it a perfect plant for southern UK.
As I mentioned earlier, my plant was dying because unfortunately there was some waterlogging. Its recovering now and in summer I will plant it in a better spot... Still waiting for the flower buds to open.; anytime now :P

 

Thanks for the info Minki. Its nice to see a scientist doing a bit of research.

I started off in research also - physics. I find you never lose that curiosity.

We look forward to seeing some pics of your Hardenbergia.

 

Thanks Peter! Totally agree with you, its the curiosity that pulls us to do research ( scientific or non-scientific)..
My field of research is Biochemistry .. never did understand Physics

To be truthful, I find research in lab is far too easy as compared to Gardening ... OMG all the things you need to consider... and at the end of the day if the plants dont like it they wont come out ... Total Divas
I love this Forum so much.. all the experience thats poured in here... You can write a book!

 

Hardenbergia violacea! finally, the much awaited buds opened up! Big Yey! as I almost thought that it died because of waterlogging...

 

It is a gem Minki!

 

Thats lovely Minki - how long does it flower for?

 

Eccromocarpus scaber is now in bloom!

 

@PeterS Should stay until summer 3-4 months. in other blogs its mentioned that hardenbergia flowers frm nov to feb. Thats austrailian spring and summer, so i m still trying to get my head around whether its summer or winter flowering..

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Thanks Minki. I have a thing about long flowering plants - to me they seem better value than short ones. 3 to 4 months sounds good. Perhaps if mine is under glass it could do it for even longer. I keep reading about tropical climbers that can flower for 12 months of the year in their native habitat - which presumably means heat.

LongK - I am amazed. I presume that's outside. The Eccremocarpus seeds that you sent me (thank you) have germinated well, as have the Bauhinia. Not sure about the Punicea yet.

 

Deffo outdoors!
Good news on the seed germination. I'm starting to get overrun with Salvia seedlings and I've only started about 40% of them so far!