Terrace in the Mediterranean

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    That's exactly what happened to me earlier.
     
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      And to me! And when I go to edit the message and delete "tree" and put "c.u.m", it appears c.um written correctly!! :rolleyespink:
       
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        Anyway, the important thing is we know what variety it is! :blue thumb:
         
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          Just out of interest, I’m intrigued by these Spanish Daffodils, can you plant all bulbs like Tulips, Hyacinths etc? The Daffodils have the same season as here in the UK and blossom at the same time. So I wonder what triggers them to sprout now? For example if I planted Daffodils in Australia or South Africa would they sprout now in their Autumn?
           
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            A relative of mine in Australia bought daffodil bulbs and told me it was normal there to put them in the fridge for a couple of months before planting.
            I think its the lowering of temperature followed by a cold spell and moisture that sparks them into flowering.
             
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              I really admire daffodils for refusing to be all-yr available as cut flowers. :biggrin:
               
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                Narcissi originally come from Southern Europe and North Africa with a centre of diversity in the Iberian Peninsula. They tend to like damper cooler conditions than Tulips. So they are kicked into growth with the coming of warmer longer days, although roots form in the late summer and bulbs start to send up growth in the autumn which then waits for the lengthening days of late winter/spring.
                The flower bud forms as the leaves die down in spring, hence the advice not to cut or tie the leaves after flowering and to feed after flowering.
                Probably not.
                 
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                  Yes, we can. Bulbs need cold to activate, especially tulips. Here, in the east and south of spain, they have to be put in the fridge because temperatures do not drop sufficiently on a continuous basis. In the centre and north this is not necessary. I had them in the fridge for 7 weeks and planted them at Christmas. Iris, crocus and daffodils do not need it as much, but tulips do.

                  In the southern hemisphere they flower in spring: September, October, November... I think it has to do with the evolution of the photoperiod.
                   
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                    Most tulips also need a hot summer bake to form the flower bud.
                    Tulips are found from Southern Europe all the way to through to China. Certainly in central Asia and in much of Turkey, Iran etc they get cold winters.
                    Temperature is as important as day length and for some bulbs it's the occurrence of seasonal rains that triggers flowering.
                     
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                      Okay, thanks I just have to be careful then, by not putting my daffodil bulbs in the salad draw.
                       
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                        Given that narcissus bulbs are toxic; why would they be in a food preparation area.
                         
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                        So thinking, immigration put my daffodil bulbs in the fridge in April and planted them in May could it be possible to have daffodils in September?

                        I would hate to see that btw.
                         
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                        I've always found that daffodils don't last long in warm weather.
                        If you get a few freak warm days in spring the flowers go over very quickly.
                         
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                          At least they are spared the horticultural indignity of being ubiquitously on show throughout every garden at Chelsea! :biggrin:
                           
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                          Don't really understand why immigration would have or want your daffodil bulbs.
                          Most suppliers ship daffodil bulbs around September for autumn planting spring flowering.
                           
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