The EU food standards

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    Joking aside, is it the case in UK too that as long as it's butchered or processed there it's classed as British (or French or whatever)?
     
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      I usually buy 'raised and slaughtered in the UK' but how true it is, I don't know.
       
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        I did wonder :biggrin:
         
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          I rarely eat meat but I cant say I've noticed any labelling saying where it was slaughtered, but I think some stuff has that red tractor thing on it which is supposed to mean something, but what I'm not sure.
          I think its nearly all Halal friendly now so that we dont upset anyone, apart from me that is.;)
           
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          The problem in this story is not that someone might get sick from eating the antibiotic laced chicken. It's that the more antibiotics that get used routinely, the more likely it is that antibiotic resistant bacteria will grow.

          It's basically evolution, but turbocharged. Antibiotics will kill most of a population of bacteria. But one or two bacteria cells might survive the encounter because of a subtle genetic variation. Those survivors multiply, doubling their numbers sometimes within minutes, and passing on the genetic trait of being less vulnerable to antibiotics. Next dose of antibiotics comes, kills most but not all the the new generation of bacteria. The survivors once again are ever so slightly more resistant. Every few minutes they multiply, again passing on their resistant genes. And so on and so on until through survival of the fittest, the antibiotic no longer affects them. Now you have what the media calls a superbug. If that strain of bacteria can infect humans, and bacteria are much more transferable than viruses, then you get sick people who can't be treated, so they die.

          So it's not just a case of avoiding Aldi and Asda chicken in case it's laced with antibiotics, it's more that others that don't avoid it could, potentially, become mobile incubators for very dangerous diseases that could affect those around them.
           
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            Are you saying that Aldi and Asda lace their chickens with antibiotics or have you just started at the beginning of the alphabet?
             
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            They were two out of the three mentioned in the news that I remembered without going back and reading it again.

            It's not that they lace the chickens with antibiotics, it's that they were mentioned as being buyers from the farm that's been implicated.

            Besides, I can't count to B :biggrin:
             
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              Sorry about me going off topic :sad: following the last posting. But a silly, or interesting, thought has popped into my head.

              Most of the languages that I know something of start with their equivalent of the letter A.

              A lot of European languages are probably based on Latin so not surprising but many others also start with a similar sound.

              Arabic, Phoenician (of course we all know that :whistle:), Hebrew and many of the Aramaic languages. Also a lot of the languages of the Indian sub continent such as Hindi. Even Zulu in S. Africa :rolleyespink: (I worked out there over 60 years ago - but didn't need to learn the language :phew:) and I tried to learn Xhosa but couldn't make the clicking sound that they produce.

               
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                My very limited understanding, which could be wrong because I'm certainly not a language expert, is that there's an ongoing debate in scholarly circles about the origin of modern languages. One camp thinks it all started in Sumaria (probably spelled that wrong) and another camp insisting it started in a region of what is now India, where the original Hindi people came from.

                If that's true, then it suggests most languages in use today have common roots. That would explain some commonality between languages. But apparently this happened many thousands of years ago, hence plenty of time for lots of variation to emerge.
                 
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                  The red tractor is a Farm assurance scheme which there is many, they go on to farm which have signed up to it and check things to make sure there are upto stardard, abit like, you take your car for MoT to get a pass and to know it's safe!
                   
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                    I vaguely remember red tractor being talked about on country file on BBC.
                    Can't remember much but I think the outcome was that it doesn't really mean much of a guarantee about standards.
                     
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                    I once read that when meet is labelled as 'British', by law that only means it was packed in Britain. I don't know if that's true now, or was ever true, or if the red tractor logo is something different.
                     
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                      Tis more about the paper trail and making sure the basic are there, if some one is bending the rules it won't mean a thing, a few year ago some farmers were talking about not doing the assurance anyway because it was a waste of time/money, but 10/15 years ago if you weren't farm assured you couldn't sell your food
                       
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