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THE TATTIES THREAD 2018

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by ARMANDII, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Well, my King edwards have been a total disaster, dug them all up as the tops had died to pretty much nothing, and I got pretty much nothing underneath.
    The plants never did look good, and went limp at the first sign of sunshine.

    Something I've noticed, has King edwards always had red eyes?
    They are selling them in the shops and they have red eyes also.

    I can remember getting 14lbs of KEds from the local greengrocer when I was a kid and I dont think they had red eyes.
    Last spud I grew that looked similar was Cara.
     
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    My memory is very poor and I cannot even recall growing growing King Edwards, I don't even know why I'm replying as I'm no use what so ever.
     
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      Ahhh :grphg:......don`t be daft :psnp:
       
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          This was bugging me, I did grow King Edwards in 2015 in a couple of ways. Firstly as grafted Tomtatoes (tomato top grafted onto potato tubers). These have a distinct pink colour, they were grown in a greenhouse in grobags:
          20151018-PA180040.jpg

          Secondly as normal plants outdoors in clay soil in my allotment, the pink colouring is not as obvious:
          20151018-PA180014.jpg

          Mine were all grown from the same batch of seed tubers so the resulting tubers vary in colour depending on growing conditions. It might explain why you recall seeing King Eds in your youth pete with very little pinkness.

          Who needs to remember anything when you have a spreadsheet and keyworded photographs - although this morning I had forgotten about both those things.
           
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          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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            Thanks John, interesting, mine were grow outside and have definite red areas around the eyes.
            I'm not going to put up a picture as they are all about the size of those baby spuds you can buy in plastic bags.:biggrin:
            I've got a feeling the seed was naff, never seen anything like the dismal crop.
             
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              I grow KE every year, I have to...there is simply no better potato for roasting.

              Redness or pinkness is always there around some of the eyes for me. I remember as a child we had two choices of potatoes at our local greengrocer in Liverpool, it was Irish whites or King Edward, and I could tell the difference by the reddish patches on the KE's.

              Pete, where your Ke's kept well watered through the hot weather? It is the last four weeks or so where the water is really needed to bulk up potato tubers. My plants where poor all summer, never larger than 18 inches and by the start of July they looked pretty much dead. But I watered after that and got a reasonable crop..

              Steve...:)
               
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                silu gardening easy...hmmm

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                Not a sign of blight yet but decided to cut off the haulms of my PFAs yesterday just in case as the weather is not nearly as good/dry as it has been.
                The only spuds I have not cut down yet are my Sarpo Mira (1st year of growing these) The haulms must be about 5ft tall:yikes:. They have fallen over but still looking pretty healthy. As I intend to store the majority of these for eating over winter, should I remove the haulms now and then lift in about a fortnight or can I leave the haulms to die back naturally? I had a furtle around and certainly what I saw were the size of huge bakers so hope they indeed are good for baking?
                 
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                  Cara for me, best all-rounder by far BUT

                  King Edwards for roasting
                  Desiree for mash
                  Maris Piper for chips

                  I just wish I had enough room to grow them all!
                   
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                  An interesting paper and method scrungee, are you really cutting down on your seed potato order this next season to one seed of each desired variety? :snorky:

                  Joking aside though, I guess your intending to use this for Kondor and the small stock of this seed you hold.

                  Steve...:)
                   
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                    Yes, and some Kennebecs. With the Kondors I'm hoping that taking stem cuttings will leave scab behind [1], producing scab free clones. That method does seem to have the potentional for producing a large number of seed spuds for the following season, dividing a saved potato up, one eye per piece, taking the growing points out to encourage sideshoots, then removing and rooting the sideshoots which will each form a small tuber for planting the following season. All done under covet in containers using fresh MPC, rather than risk infection and/or blight by growing outdoors in open ground.

                    I might have missed it, but I cant recall seeing anything in thst paper about what tubers the plants used to produce the stem cutting went on to produce themselves.



                    [1] I also want to try burying some spuds in moist MPC until they produce rooted chits, then removing these from the tuber, washing the roots in 1:9 thin bleach/water to kill scab bacteria and transplanting. Not wanting to waste my limited stock, I'll get some other sprouting spuds in very early under lights and check whether this kill the transplants.
                     
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                    I only saw the Kennebecs mentioned in the article, unless I missed something too. No surprise in that I guess its one of their more popular varieties, and mine too after growing them this year.

                    Steve...:)

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                    Second paragraph: "Propagation tests were made with the varieties Kennebec, Netted
                    Gem, Norland and Saco."
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